Please help before I lose my mind! Holograms!!

**ssmith96** · 05-26-2013, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by Zapa

If I were you I would use a white lake country pad with Menzerna SF4500. It works great on soft paint.

And that should take care of it? I just want to be sure before I pay 50 bucks for one bottle of product, but I have no problem paying up if it really works.

**mavin** · 05-26-2013, 08:38 PM

Is SF 4500 superior to SF 4000?

**capnp72** · 05-26-2013, 08:42 PM

SF4500 has less cut than SF4000. I wouldn't say one is superior to the other. They're both finishing polishes.

**ihaveacamaro** · 05-26-2013, 08:44 PM

Wolfgang Finishing Glaze is not a glaze in the traditional sense. It contains no fillers, just a misleading name.

**swanicyouth** · 05-26-2013, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by ssmith96

But what if I don't want the filling effects of glaze? Or is that also a polish. I've seen the terms used to interchangeably.

Its actually not a "glaze", but a polish. Some say its identical to SF 4000. If its not the same, its quite similar and its made by Menzerna.

IME SF 4500 will not remove any defects on BMW paint. Although, I've only used it with a grey pad, not a white one. What it does do is amp up the gloss and smoothness of the finish.

If you ordered SF 4500 and not WG FG it should still work fine on a white pad, as holograms are very very shallow.

**Evan.J** · 05-26-2013, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by ssmith96

And that should take care of it? I just want to be sure before I pay 50 bucks for one bottle of product, but I have no problem paying up if it really works.

You can really go with either one. They are similar. The 4000 will have just a little more of a cut than the 4500.

You paint can be polished to remove most of the swirls it's just working with soft paint that can be tricky. Usually what I have seen is that softer paints do not like m205. So going with a fine finishing polish like the 4000 or 4500 and a finishing pads tends to work great for those soft paints.

I think the 4000 should do the trick for you and it was a great recommendation from Zapa.

Originally Posted by ihaveacamaro

Wolfgang Finishing Glaze is not a glaze in the traditional sense. It contains no fillers, just a misleading name.

Well definitely forgot about that on Roshan. Thanks for that.

**Zapa** · 05-26-2013, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by ssmith96

And that should take care of it? I just want to be sure before I pay 50 bucks for one bottle of product, but I have no problem paying up if it really works.

Yes that will take care of it. It is my go to finishing polish. I like it more than the FF3000 I have sitting there.

Evan knows what hes talking about also.

**john b** · 05-26-2013, 09:04 PM

you could probably find someone that is tradeing menz on the forums also.probably people have 4500 lookin for 205.

**psnt1ol** · 05-26-2013, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by ssmith96

And that should take care of it? I just want to be sure before I pay 50 bucks for one bottle of product, but I have no problem paying up if it really works.

SF4000 is my fine polish of choice. It works great with a finishing pad. I done a few JB BMWs as well as having one in my garage. JB BMW is not a color but a freaking full time job. It is the most frustrating paint system on a car that I ever have the pleasure of owning.

**BlackHawk** · 05-26-2013, 11:23 PM

Ah the DA holograms strike again....I have the same issue going on my car. I've tried every combination of pad and polish I have, ranging from a super fine polish and a gold CCS pad, to white pad with WGTSR. Nothing makes it go away. A white pad with Meg's UC finished down better (loosely termed) than a black pad with a fine polish. It's so strange. My technique is ideal, towels plush and clean, pads clean, work area clean, and they're still here lol never ending holograms. Although they are not noticeable up close, a good eye will spot them from a distance :/

Good luck fixing your holograms :/ hopefully you won't have as much trouble