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    Re: Unbelievably excellent Cleaner! (Long Read)

    I get it from a local company called Springfield Janitorial in Springfield, Mo where I live. I think you normally have to buy at least 4 gallons of this product and it's quite expensive.

    They sell it to me in gallon size for around $28. It's a Spartan product. Perhaps you could contact the company?

    I'm also testing a new, similar product called citrus scrub, by Hillyard. It works equally well on interiors, but it has a slightly lower d limonene content. It doesn't seem to cut tar quite as easy, but it still definitely removes it.

    If you've got a little extra money and want to test some products, I definitely would suggest Orange Tough 40 and Citrus Scurb.

    I think the most important thing about these products are that they contain d limonene and can be diluted (unlike many d limonene products)
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    Re: Unbelievably excellent Cleaner! (Long Read)

    ^^Yeah, the only way I would buy Orange tough is from a 5 gallon bucket, and shipping costs just about the same as the bucket does and that to me is just not worth it at all...

    I was doing research and found that ebay sells pure D-limonene for around 40 bucks a gallon with free shipping. Orange tough has 40% D-limonene in it, which, you can save real big with buying pure but you need to mix it with some kind of emulsifier so it can be dilluted with water. I'm not an expert chemist or anything but I would think if you bought your own chemicals and messed around with the ratios a little, you could make your own D-limonene cleaner and save huge

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    Re: Unbelievably excellent Cleaner! (Long Read)

    I've always thought it would be cool to mix my own chemicals, but in the end I'm not a chemist.

    I also have a 90%+ dlimonene product that works as good as most other solvents at removing stickers, gum, tar. It doesn't mix with water and is over $40 per gallon, but I use it very sparingly just on the worst stuff.

    If you come across cupholders that are full to the top of melted gum, pennies, candy etc. orange tough 40 can normally handle it. If not, the higher percentage product definitely can. . . especially coupled with steam.

    You have to use extreme caution with this stuff, just like any other solvent, because you can potentially damage surfaces. . .


    I ran across something the other day that dlimonene couldn't do. Half a bottle of clear nail polish was spilled and hardened in a ford escape cupholder.

    I used nail polish remover and still had an extremely difficult time but eventually got it out with minimal damage to the plastic cupholder. I used the try liner inside the console to cut out and create a new insert for the bottom of the cup holder. The customer was very happy, as before, the cupholder was a quarter full of nail polish and the bottle was stuck in the hardened puddle.
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    Re: Unbelievably excellent Cleaner! (Long Read)

    ^^Wow, that deserves an award. For the most neglected cupholder!

    Anyways, I've decided to try my luck and buy pure to see how it goes. I will definitely keep you updated. By the way what kind of surfaces can this stuff damage?

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    Re: Unbelievably excellent Cleaner! (Long Read)

    pictures....
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    Re: Unbelievably excellent Cleaner! (Long Read)

    I think high concentrations of dlimonene, especially allowed to dwell too long, can dull plastic. But, that's pretty much true of any apc. If you used apc +, undiluted on black plastic, I can almost guarantee that it will dull it.

    Ever wonder why apc+ tends to get favored over the other meg's apc's? It has a slight amount of dlimonene in it. I think that's what gives it the edge, especially for interior cleaning, compared to super degreaser and their regular apc.

    I feel perfectly safe using products like orange tough 40 and other products that are 40% or less dlimonene, especially diluted, on most car interior surfaces. IMO, they are safer than traditional apc's because they are nearly ph neutral. I know from testing on scrap pieces of plastic that high percentage dlimonene will eventually start to dull plastic if allowed to dwell long enough. doesn't mean it's not safe, just means one has to use caution.

    Keep me updated on the pure dlimonene. I'm really loving orange tough 40, mostly because it's cheap, because I can buy it locally and because it's already mixed with emulsifiers, surfactants, etc.

    Hey, something else I've been reading about. . .I've been reading how some dlimonene products claim to be 100% but they might not be that great because the dlimonene isn't 100% active.

    It may just be a marketing scheme, but orange tough 40 claims to be 40% dlimonene and something around 60-70% active. May not mean anything, but then again, it may be something to be aware of.
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    Re: Unbelievably excellent Cleaner! (Long Read)

    Quote Originally Posted by Deep Gloss Auto Salon View Post
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    I wish! It was like a joke. I was cleaning all debris out of the car and reached for the nail polish bottle and it was like it was bolted in. I couldn't pry it out with a screwdriver. I poured nail polish remover in and let it sit for at least 10 minutes before everything started to loosen up.
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    Re: Unbelievably excellent Cleaner! (Long Read)

    There's also a 90 version
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    Re: Unbelievably excellent Cleaner! (Long Read)

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    There's also a 90 version
    Yep, and I may try it when I run out of my current high percentage dlimonene product.

    It's not dilutable with water if I remember right, but I'm sure it's awesome at removing extremely heavy tar or asphalt, gum etc.
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    Re: Unbelievably excellent Cleaner! (Long Read)

    Well I just put in an order for Food Grade D-Limonene which is supposidly the highest purity you can get. Pictures are showing combustable fluid precautions so I'm guessing something here has some cleaning power!

    I'm going to try it at 10% at first and see what happens. I did a little research and found out that common household items can be used as emulsifiers. Have you tried using it on carpets or window tint?

    I'll keep you guys posted on how it works out

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