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Re: Clay baring black cars
Originally Posted by Cosmin
i learn my lesson on the hard way , i claybar a new black s5 and lucky the car was schedule for 1 step polish , but i did see how was left after claybar.
since than no more claybar only for black cars, is even wash and wax or 1 step polish.
i do explain the clients who insist for it and if they say i do it.
it all depends what`s your standard, most black cars will marr/haze and if they have soft paint or are brand new will show worse than when you start with it.
claybar= wetsand in X000 grit .... like any detailer here , what comes after wetsand?....POLISH my friend. period!
Where you using an aggressive clay? Cause I did a new blue S5 and had no problems at all.
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Re: Clay baring black cars
Originally Posted by Pureshine
Where you using an aggressive clay? Cause I did a new blue S5 and had no problems at all.
do a non metalic black new audi, porsche , bmw , bentey ( all this car paint are softer), or most new non metalic black cars.
i use fine clay , is been a while since i did that car. if works for you great!
but on anything dark color i don`t sell that service. keeps me away from any headache.
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Re: Clay baring black cars
Originally Posted by Cosmin
do a non metalic black new audi, porsche , bmw , bentey ( all this car paint are softer), or most new non metalic black cars.
i use fine clay , is been a while since i did that car. if works for you great!
but on anything dark color i don`t sell that service. keeps me away from any headache.
I under stand where your coming from for sure. I might have to rethink this.
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Todd
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Originally Posted by Pureshine
I under stand where your coming from for sure. I might have to rethink this.
Thanks
Todd
Meg's consumer line clay bar (white) is one of the mildest & yet effective that I use for soft black paint.
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Re: Clay baring black cars
If you don't clay, how do you decontaminate? If you don't decontaminate aren't you worried you'll scratch or swirl the hell out of it by going over the spots of contamination?
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Originally Posted by 07gtcs
If you don't clay, how do you decontaminate? If you don't decontaminate aren't you worried you'll scratch or swirl the hell out of it by going over the spots of contamination?
If we are talking rail/brake dust you would be amazed at how effective iron-x can be to chemically decontaminate a vehicle without claying.
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Re: Clay baring black cars
I have a metallic black Audi and was planning on claying (using opti-eraser, the mild/pink version) and waxing with CG 50/50 this weekend. I don't own a PC, so is it a bad idea? Will I be doing more damage than good?
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Re: Clay baring black cars
Originally Posted by Pureshine
Ya but not everyone is willing to pay for paint correction. If you educate your customers it should never be a problem. I have never had a customer complain ever and if a customers wants a sealant or wax done your not going to clay the car?
Todd
Todd, I fully understand that everyone won't buy a full correction........for dark vehicals(mainly Black) if its a wash and wax.....no clay.
if they want the vehical to feel smooth then I'll talk them into a light polish at the least...then clay will come into play.Now with that being said I am not a full time detailer,I work a 50-70hr ,highly stressfull job and detail for salvation and relaxation.
most of my customers want the full treatment.
Originally Posted by 07gtcs
If you don't clay, how do you decontaminate? If you don't decontaminate aren't you worried you'll scratch or swirl the hell out of it by going over the spots of contamination?
Iron-x is what I use the most.....then clay if the customer is willing to pay.
Originally Posted by mikeh14
I have a metallic black Audi and was planning on claying (using opti-eraser, the mild/pink version) and waxing with CG 50/50 this weekend. I don't own a PC, so is it a bad idea? Will I be doing more damage than good?
I would do a small spot to see if some maring occurs....if no then go ahead but if you see maring or hazing I would look at plan B, that a polishing step may be in order.
Tim "I have done so much with so little for so long. Now I can do anything with nothing"
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Re: Clay baring black cars
Alright so I have about 8 cars this friday (Doing a fleet detail) and was going to wash/clay/seal should I not clay now?
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Re: Clay baring black cars
Originally Posted by Regency
Alright so I have about 8 cars this friday (Doing a fleet detail) and was going to wash/clay/seal should I not clay now?
If thats what you sold them then do it.
Tim "I have done so much with so little for so long. Now I can do anything with nothing"
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