Shampoo question - CG Citrus wash and gloss

[stephent007]

Chemical Guys Citrus wash and gloss is a shampoo I see mentioned often on the forum, the item description states that it can be used for both maintenance washes (1 capful to 5 gallons) and to strip lsp (1oz to 1 gallon):

1.Wouldn't that mean that at higher dilutions (1 capful to 5 gallons) it will strip lsp, only less effectively?

2. Does this apply to other car shampoos? - Will using more product per gallon water will strip lsp?

[SonOfOC]

1) No. That's not quite how it works. At the higher dilutions it's simply not strong enough to strip most LSPs.

2) Generally speaking yes, if it's considered a strong soap to start with.

Other factors come into play like how long you let the soap dwell on your car and how agressive you are with you wash media.

[stephent007]

1) No. That's not quite how it works. At the higher dilutions it's simply not strong enough to strip most LSPs.

2) Generally speaking yes, if it's considered a strong soap to start with.

Other factors come into play like how long you let the soap dwell on your car and how agressive you are with you wash media.

Maybe I should have phrased 1. differently, what I meant was that won't the cwg degrade lsps to some extent even at the 'safe' dilution?

[TroyScherer]

1) No. That's not quite how it works. At the higher dilutions it's simply not strong enough to strip most LSPs.

2) Generally speaking yes, if it's considered a strong soap to start with.

Other factors come into play like how long you let the soap dwell on your car and how agressive you are with you wash media.

1) I'm sorry but your logic does not add up. If it can strip wax ata higher dilution then YES it will have the same effect only much less so at lower dilution ratios. Does it strip wax immediately? No of course not but over time it will have that effect.

2) On this I will agree. That most any soap that can be used to strip wax will have the same type of effect at lower dilutions but it will take more time.


A note. The longer you leave these stripping soaps on the surface the more they work. So if you wash a panel and rinse it immediately it will have very little to no effect.

[Ron Atchison]

[SON1C]

It's my favorite soap, try it, you're over thinking this

[TroyScherer]

It's my favorite soap, try it, you're over thinking this

I'm on my second gallon of the stuff.... I like it as well...


Let's look at it like this. If you mix the soap strong enough it will begin to strip your wax.... If this is the case will it not also have the same effect over a prolonged period of time at a lower dilution? It is after all the same soap only at a lower strength.

We don't always see this because we wax so often the the lower dilution has not had enough time to LSP. But I if you let the lower dilution sit on the paint for extended periods of time more often you will begin to see the effects. I have tried this little test myself.

Maybe I am overthinking it a little. But I like to know moe about the products I am using on my vehicles as well as customers. Because knowledge is power....

[SON1C]

No offense but everyone is just speculating and I understand both theories either way bottom line I'm sure it won't make a difference, if you're that worried use their glossworkz

[TroyScherer]

No offense but everyone is just speculating and I understand both theories either way bottom line I'm sure it won't make a difference, if you're that worried use their glossworkz

I agree.

The more often you wax the less it matters. And if you worry about it then use something else.

[SonOfOC]

What I meant is if you use it per instructions, it will not immediately strip your LSP. Sure multiple washes will eventually diminish the LSP. Even a "water" only wash 10x over will degrade your LSP.

1) I'm sorry but your logic does not add up. If it can strip wax ata higher dilution then YES it will have the same effect only much less so at lower dilution ratios. Does it strip wax immediately? No of course not but over time it will have that effect.

2) On this I will agree. That most any soap that can be used to strip wax will have the same type of effect at lower dilutions but it will take more time.


A note. The longer you leave these stripping soaps on the surface the more they work. So if you wash a panel and rinse it immediately it will have very little to no effect.