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    After #105/#205 combo

    What should I use after using Meguiar's #105/#205 combo?
    my steps are
    1. 105 - orange pad
    2. 205- grey or white pad
    3.???? - do I need a glaze? such as Meguiars Mirror Glaze #3 Pro Machine Glaze or Meguiars Mirror Glaze #5 New Car Glaze

    4. Ultima Paint Guard Plus sealant
    5. Pinnacle Liquid Souveran Wax- blue or red pad

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    Re: After #105/#205 combo

    No, you don't need a glaze, unless you want to use one of the CG's or Poorboy's...but wait--if you use 205 or one of those oily glazes you mention, you'll need to do some sort of cleaning step before you use the UPGP...which of course will remove the glaze.

    I'd either skip the glaze entirely and do some sort of paint cleaning or use the Ultima prep product. OR--use something like this: Chemical Guys EZ-Creme Glaze w/Acrylic Shine II 16 oz. although I'm not a CG guy so I'm not sure if the UPGP will bond to that (IIRC it should clean up the 205 oils).

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    Re: After #105/#205 combo

    What are you working on?

    • Show Car?
    • Daily Driver?


    Show Car = Menzerna SF 4500 – Super Finish Polish

    Daily Driver = Might as well go to wax if the paint looks great!


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    Re: After #105/#205 combo

    Mike I hear people say po85rd is rotary dependent what is our thoughts on using it with a GG DA is it jut a waste of time?
    Ryan Gville,LA

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    Re: After #105/#205 combo

    I jewel the paint with Menzerna PO85rd using a Flex XC 3401, and I have had great success with the DA polisher and a tangerine jeweling pad.

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    Re: After #105/#205 combo

    What kind of tangerine jeweling pad because the LC hydro tech tangerine is a light cutting pad.
    Ryan Gville,LA

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    Re: After #105/#205 combo

    I've used a traditional DA, a Flex 3401 DA, and a rotary to jewel with using 85rd (using either a crimson HT, or black pad w/da, and a blue pad w/ rotary). IMO the rotary produces better results. But you can get good results with a DA. With any polisher, be sure to work the polish (a lot) till it is fully broken down. As soon as the polish starts to go clear, reduce the pressure. Continue working it. Once the polish has gone clear reduce the pressure significantly. Make a few final slow passes over the clear polish to bring out the gloss. At this point there is only VERY light polishing action left in the polish it is ultra fine, but it is still refining the surface ever so microscopically. Here is where I believe the extreme gloss comes from. Then I typically make a couple more slow passes with little pressure, to almost no pressure (when using a da you still need to apply some pressure, because of the erratic movement of the spindle). When using a PCxp I run it at full throttle the entire time. When using the 3401 I typically start out at around 5, and turn it down to 4 for the last few passes.

    Using a rotary I typically break the polish down in 3 steps:

    Stage 1 (1200-1400 rpms) - Firm pressure

    Stage 2 (1000-1200 rpms)- Less pressure

    Stage 3 (800-1000 rpms) - VERY Light pressure
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    Re: After #105/#205 combo

    Quote Originally Posted by DARK HORSE View Post
    I've used a traditional DA, a Flex 3401 DA, and a rotary to jewel with using 85rd (using either a crimson HT, or black pad w/da, and a blue pad w/ rotary). IMO the rotary produces better results.
    Thanks for the info
    Ryan Gville,LA

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    Re: After #105/#205 combo

    Mike, I know u recommend staying with one brand. I don't think my car needs #105. What would be a good medium cut polish if I didn't want to use the #105 or only on some of the car?

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    Re: After #105/#205 combo

    Megs D300 or Megs Ultimate Compound would be the intermediate between M105 and M205.

    But get some Menzerna SF4500. For a final polish before your LSP, it's hard to beat.

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