Optimum Car wax

[G37]

Is OPT Car wax a maintenence product or could it be used as a LSP?

[Fly bye]

I'm not sure what you trying to accomplish with your reply.

What am I trying to accomplish? I know what you're trying to accomplish. All I did was tell the truth.

If you are able to grasp the concept of "up to" then there is no contradiction in my post.

For some reason, you are unable to grasp the concept that this product does not last up to 5 months. What do you mean by "up to"? When you say up to, do you mean 4 months? Do you mean 3 months? In my previous posts, I stated that the longevity of this product is around 6-8 weeks. I also stated that the car in which I used this product on is garaged 24-7. As I stated, the conditions in which this product was used, was favorable for longevity, meaning that in less favorable conditions, longevity will be less.

When you say "up to 5 months", that could be anywhere from 1 week, to 5 months. 6-8 weeks is nowhere near 5 months. At this point, I consider this dishonest and fraudulent. I am done with Optimum, this thread and with you.

Great way to gain customer loyalty

[Chris Thomas]

Is OPT Car wax a maintenence product or could it be used as a LSP?

All cleaning and detailing is maintenance. OCW is an LSP sorry for the confusion.


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[G37]

What am I trying to accomplish? I know what you're trying to accomplish. All I did was tell the truth.






For some reason, you are unable to grasp the concept that this product does not last up to 5 months. What do you mean by "up to"? When you say up to, do you mean 4 months? Do you mean 3 months? In my previous posts, I stated that the longevity of this product is around 6-8 weeks. I also stated that the car in which I used this product on is garaged 24-7. As I stated, the conditions in which this product was used, was favorable for longevity, meaning that in less favorable conditions, longevity will be less.

When you say "up to 5 months", that could be anywhere from 1 week, to 5 months. 6-8 weeks is nowhere near 5 months. At this point, I consider this dishonest and fraudulent. I am done with Optimum, this thread and with you.

Great way to gain customer loyalty

Now I know why there has to be a lawyer disclaimer at the end of everything...

[C. Charles Hahn]

When you say "up to 5 months", that could be anywhere from 1 week, to 5 months. 6-8 weeks is nowhere near 5 months. At this point, I consider this dishonest and fraudulent.

Yes, because obviously no possible set of conditional circumstances exist wherein their claims could possibly be accurate. Your personal set of circumstances and all variables that come into play within your scenario are the ideal conditions for that 5 month durability to be observed, and none better could possibly be found.

Give me a break!

[rwright]

Fly Bye, I don't understand you. At first you praised OCW then suddenly flipped and stated you are done with Optimum. You stated the same thing as Chris, there are different variables affecting the performance of the product. That implies you understand the statement "up to". You stated the product loses slickness after a couple weeks but that doesn't mean protection is not there. In your opinion you feel OCW does not last up to 5 months in your garage, yet Optimum achieved better results in a lab where they could monitor the product in ways you can't. I'm sorry but you are contradicting yourself, not Chris.

The solution is simple really, if you don't feel the product lasts long enough then re-apply it or move to a more durable product as mentioned.


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[builthatch]

What am I trying to accomplish? I know what you're trying to accomplish. All I did was tell the truth.

For some reason, you are unable to grasp the concept that this product does not last up to 5 months. What do you mean by "up to"? When you say up to, do you mean 4 months? Do you mean 3 months? In my previous posts, I stated that the longevity of this product is around 6-8 weeks. I also stated that the car in which I used this product on is garaged 24-7. As I stated, the conditions in which this product was used, was favorable for longevity, meaning that in less favorable conditions, longevity will be less.

When you say "up to 5 months", that could be anywhere from 1 week, to 5 months. 6-8 weeks is nowhere near 5 months. At this point, I consider this dishonest and fraudulent. I am done with Optimum, this thread and with you.

Great way to gain customer loyalty

dude, go hit a heavy bag or something. lay off with the crazy attitude! log off and come back when you have your mind right. what Chris said makes perfect sense and you attacked him because you either didn't read or comprehend his explanation of the 5 month thing. he already posted about it earlier in this thread:

Optimum achieved 5 months on some panels during development. The claim is "up to 5 months." Results will vary with climate, wash intervals, products and technique, etc. That said, it's very easy to use and apply so why not do it monthly as it only takes 10-15 minutes? When 5+ month durability is required, try 2 layers of OOS topped with OCW or just have OptiCoat applied.

it's apparent there that he's saying if you REQUIRE that durability, then do the maximum, ie OOS w/ OCW or Opti-Coat. if you don't do those things, then the liklihood of that upper durability duration is less and as explained that depends on the variables he listed.

Chris has come in here and been nothing but gracious to everyone. many factory people are not necessarily personable or objective when offering data and from what i've seen Chris has been both of those things.

sheesh.

[Chris Thomas]

What am I trying to accomplish? I know what you're trying to accomplish. All I did was tell the truth.






For some reason, you are unable to grasp the concept that this product does not last up to 5 months. What do you mean by "up to"? When you say up to, do you mean 4 months? Do you mean 3 months? In my previous posts, I stated that the longevity of this product is around 6-8 weeks. I also stated that the car in which I used this product on is garaged 24-7. As I stated, the conditions in which this product was used, was favorable for longevity, meaning that in less favorable conditions, longevity will be less.

When you say "up to 5 months", that could be anywhere from 1 week, to 5 months. 6-8 weeks is nowhere near 5 months. At this point, I consider this dishonest and fraudulent. I am done with Optimum, this thread and with you.

Great way to gain customer loyalty

I apologize if my post sounded condescending but I re read my posts and they seem crystal clear. In testing we were able to get 5 months but this certainly doesn't mean every customer, in every climate with thousands of variables will get that. I honestly thought that the term "up to" was commonly used and known to be a best case scenario. The claim is certainly not fraudulent or even misleading. Optimum stands behind our products 100% so you really have nothing to lose. If you don't like something we sell just contact me for a resolution or contact AG for a replacement/substitute.


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[Black Car]

don't apologize dude. he's out of line. i think i speak for a lot of people on here when i say that Optimum has some of the best looking and easiest products on the market. I would be lost without my ONR, OCW... the list is endless.

As for the OP, i dry the entire car completely before i use my opti spray wax and it looks great.

[mxfly]

I love OCW and the majority of my production work I finish with this product. When my clients see and feel the finish, they are astounded by how great their car looks and silky smooth the paintwork is. Not only is it easy to apply and wipe off, it produces great results in minimal time.