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    Not satisfied after M105/205....

    Started working on a Vette today and am having some trouble pulling all of the scratches out. I know some of them are past the clear and are out of range with the PC, but it seems like some of the ones left are surface scratches that should come out. Using the Meg's 105/205 with Orange/White Pads. Sealed with #21 Sealant and then using Meguiars Carnauba Wax. Any ideas? Too deep for a DA?


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    Also, did a test spot on the hood and there are small spots all over the front of the car. What exactly causes this and is there anyway to get them out?


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    Re: Not satisfied after M105/205....

    You will to at least go over the defects several times to or if they are too deep, you will need to lightly wet sand sand them to remove them. As far as the tiny dots on the front of the car it is called "sand blasting" from driving on the road tiny debris beat on the paint and basically sand blast the paint. Good luck from one vette owner to another.

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    Re: Not satisfied after M105/205....

    Full correction on a C5 often requires more than just a PC to do the job in a timely fashion.... otherwise you're going to be there for a while. Corvette paint is notoriously difficult to work with in that regard.
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    Re: Not satisfied after M105/205....

    I used Meg Ultimate Compound with CCS orange pads which is very similar to Meg 105 to clear etching in an Audi CC when other products didn't. Meg 105 should remove a great deal of issues but you can also try a yellow pad next.

    Wet sanding may be needed to remove deep scratches and SIRS, just be careful to feather the edges. Use an IPA wash to make sure that you correctly properly.

    Use your favorite wax but a true glaze should not be needed if correction is complete. On the other hand, a glaze can hide defects for a couple weeks between waxing.

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    Re: Not satisfied after M105/205....

    You can put your entire body weight on your DA with an Orange Pad with M105 all day and still not remove those defects. There are scratches that are simply too deep to be removed by DA with an cutting orange pad.

    In cases like this where you are dealing with deep scratches, you want a pad that is aggressive enough. Try the Lake Country yellow heavy cutting pad. It has noticeably more cutting power than the orange pad. You could also try using the Surbuf pads on a spot basis.

    Lastly you may want to use a polish that is specifically designed for hard clear coats. I learned the long way that a medium cut Menzerna polish has more cutting power on ceramic clear coat than M105.

    Judging from the picture, those scratches could be easily removed with a PWF and M105 using a rotary @ 1700rpm. No wetsanding required.

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    Re: Not satisfied after M105/205....

    I like Menzerna Super Intensive Polish. This combined with a orange or white Lake Country Kompressor pad on my Makita rotary should knock most of those out in short order.

    Here's a chart that may help.


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    Re: Not satisfied after M105/205....

    The paint looks like it is in pretty bad shape. Is it peppered by ding marks?
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    Re: Not satisfied after M105/205....

    The paint is in terrible shape for a car that has so much $ invested in it. So would a yellow pad and the Menzerna polish touch the scratches or is it simply too much for a DA to take out. I think the last picture was 3 passes with the orange pad and M105, and it didn't seem as if I had a shot at getting them out.

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    Re: Not satisfied after M105/205....

    How does the Super Intensive Menzerna compare to the XMT #4 Heavy Duty Swirl Remover? Will either of these with a Yellow Pad give me better results?

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    Re: Not satisfied after M105/205....

    The pictures are so large that even on a 24" monitor I have to horizontal scroll to see the entire picture which means I can never see the entire picture...

    Please resize to 800 pixels wide before posting to a forum... it's not that hard folks.. I do it for every photo I upload and I don't know anyone that uploads and inserts more photos than I do...


    How to resize your photos before uploading

    It's hard to help when you can't see the entire picture...


    Regardless,

    1. How long have you been using a PC?
    2. Which PC do you have? A first generation or a second generation?
    3. How large of an area you your buffing?
    4. Have you watched my video on making a section pass?


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