Sealant/Wax suggestion vs. this color!

**Mirror Detailing** · 06-22-2010, 03:14 PM

Alright I finally give up. I have tried many different combinations on this paint for that wet/pop/wow factor and cant seem to find a good choice. Closet I have gotten is WGDGPS topped with Nattys Blue. Which is what is on in the picture below. Now I now Wolfgang might be best but I need something that can be applied for the not able to wait 12-24 hours to cure times. As in the morning before a show etc.

So far I have tried...

Supernatural
BFWD
Nattys Blue
Nattys Red
Concourse 50/50
Pinn. LS
PB EX-P
Auto. HD

This color is such an off color, anyone have a suggestion on a wax or sealant that would look best on this color/hue?

**loudog2** · 06-22-2010, 03:35 PM

I hate the product, but jetseal can be topped in a short time.

**rwright** · 06-22-2010, 04:03 PM

Try Duragloss 501, then DG601 and WGDGPS. The 601 flash cures whatever sealant you mix it with. Then top with AG HD, Victoria Mayhem, or even one of my favorites - Pinnacle Signature Series II. Everything I keep reading about Duragloss though, seems like 501/601/105 produces a nice wet look and is very durable.

**Mirror Detailing** · 06-22-2010, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by loudog2

I hate the product, but jetseal can be topped in a short time.

Friend of mine has Jetseal and I have never been impressed with any paint that has been on. Its a great wheel sealant though.

Originally Posted by rwright

Try Duragloss 501, then DG601 and WGDGPS. The 601 flash cures whatever sealant you mix it with. Then top with AG HD, Victoria Mayhem, or even one of my favorites - Pinnacle Signature Series II. Everything I keep reading about Duragloss though, seems like 501/601/105 produces a nice wet look and is very durable.

Tried some of those listed. But I am looking for someone who has waxed/sealed a car close to this color that got that wet/wow/pop look. WGDGPS seems to be the closet and AG HD did not look that great on this color.

**akimel** · 06-22-2010, 04:45 PM

Ummm ... you have already tried some of the top waxes and sealants available ... maybe you have hit the protectant ceiling and will never see a significant improvement, no matter what you apply to the car.

I have tried numerous waxes on my black S2000--Souveran, Fuzion, Vintage, Best of Show, BFWD, Midnight Sun--and while I think I may have seen subtle differences, the differences are so subtle I suspect they more in my head than on the paint. I do know, however, that the biggest improvements in my car's finish have come from polishing, not from waxes.

I'm not sure I understand why the 12+ hour cure time is a problem for you. There is no reason, e.g., why you could not apply Fuzion (or any other wax or sealant) the morning before a show. And if you think you need two coats, then apply the first the day before and the second the next morning.

I certainly don't want to discourage a person from spending more money on waxes, but I've been down that road, looking for that "special" look, and I'm convinced it's a dead-end. But if you have the money and really want to try out one more wax, then I suggest, spend the bucks on a tub of Fuzion. If Fuzion doesn't cut it, nothing will. But it may be that you'd be better served by investing in a bottle of Menzerna PO85RD and spending a few hours jeweling your car's paint.

By the way, your car looks great!

**HighEndDetail** · 06-22-2010, 05:04 PM

My thought for that color either Four Star UPP or DoDo Hard Candy

**Mirror Detailing** · 06-22-2010, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by akimel

Ummm ... you have already tried some of the top waxes and sealants available ... maybe you have hit the protectant ceiling and will never see a significant improvement, no matter what you apply to the car.

I have tried numerous waxes on my black S2000--Souveran, Fuzion, Vintage, Best of Show, BFWD, Midnight Sun--and while I think I may have seen subtle differences, the differences are so subtle I suspect they more in my head than on the paint. I do know, however, that the biggest improvements in my car's finish have come from polishing, not from waxes.

I'm not sure I understand why the 12+ hour cure time is a problem for you. There is no reason, e.g., why you could not apply Fuzion (or any other wax or sealant) the morning before a show. And if you think you need two coats, then apply the first the day before and the second the next morning.

I certainly don't want to discourage a person from spending more money on waxes, but I've been down that road, looking for that "special" look, and I'm convinced it's a dead-end. But if you have the money and really want to try out one more wax, then I suggest, spend the bucks on a tub of Fuzion. If Fuzion doesn't cut it, nothing will. But it may be that you'd be better served by investing in a bottle of Menzerna PO85RD and spending a few hours jeweling your car's paint.

By the way, your car looks great!

Yeah I agree the protectant cailing has been hit on the the car. Its just after all those hours of buffing and polishing I want the LSP to make the paint pop. My problem I just cant find that sealant or wax that goes best with this color. Since most waxes are preferred to a certain color or hue, this one seems to be in the gray area. But yeah Fuzion is the only one I have not tried. I probably should get some of that soon.

Also I have no problem applying WG the day before but not all times it happens that way. So I am just trying to find that good waxes for times when it has to be done a few hours before a show. That and for future customer cars I might have that are in that gray area for the best suited wax/sealant to make the vehicle stand out.

Originally Posted by HighEndDetail

My thought for that color either Four Star UPP or DoDo Hard Candy

Thanks! Will look into one of those.

**wytstang** · 06-22-2010, 05:29 PM

Have any #16? UPP topped w/#16 is a great combo for me.

**ScottB** · 06-22-2010, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by HighEndDetail

My thought for that color either Four Star UPP or DoDo Hard Candy

or both together, the sealant the night before and quick waxing at show or in the early morning.

Have you also considering jeweling the paint first for extra gloss and reflection, a sealant and wax can only do so much ??

**Mirror Detailing** · 06-22-2010, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by killrwheels@autogeek

or both together, the sealant the night before and quick waxing at show or in the early morning.

Have you also considering jeweling the paint first for extra gloss and reflection, a sealant and wax can only do so much ??

Yep generally if I can get the time, I will wash, clay if needed and then jewel it with Super Finish w/ LC Gold Pad. Then seal and wax.