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    what is jeweling?

    i have noticed a few people talking about "jeweling" and a was wondering what it was and what products are used for this process?

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    Re: what is jeweling?

    Quote Originally Posted by 4pbears View Post
    i have noticed a few people talking about "jeweling" and a was wondering what it was and what products are used for this process?
    Jeweling is just a fancy word for polishing with a fine polish at low rpms. It is meant to enhance the depth of the paint after all the paint correction has been done. I typically jewel with a 3m ultrafine pad and m205 at about 900rpms on my makita. Jeweling can be done as a final step after say correcting the paint at 1400 rpms, then stepping down the 1100 to get rid of any marring and then finally burnishing the surface at 900 rpms.

    Jeweling isn't a necessary step to get the paint looking good, but more of an extra step to make the paint look better. The difference isn't huge like you would expect from polishing, but the depth of the paint does improve.
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    Re: what is jeweling?

    Just to add to what Jon wrote...

    Most people associate the term jeweling with the final or finish polishing work done with a rotary buffer but some do call their finish polishing with other tools jeweling.

    When using a rotary buffer, this is one area where the Makita offers a lower RPM than most Rotary Buffers a it will turn down to 600 RPM

    See polisher Tech Specs here,

    How to choose the right polisher for your detailing project



    For my last rotary buffer step on this project, I used M205 on a W9207 Finishing Pad on a Makita on the low/600 RPM setting.


    How to choose the right polisher for your detailing project


    See post #25 on page 3 of the above thread.






    It's important to keep you pad very clean and always remove any spent product off the surface before applying new product.


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    Re: what is jeweling?

    Mike,
    Is it possible to jewel paint with DA?
    CORN FED STI

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    Re: what is jeweling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slava View Post
    Mike,
    Is it possible to jewel paint with DA?
    I thought I wrote that above?


    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Phillips

    Most people associate the term jeweling with the final or finish polishing work done with a rotary buffer but some do call their finish polishing with other tools jeweling.

    Re-read what I wrote above...


    Jeweling can mean different things to different people, I actually suggested that someone take ownership of the term and write the definition and no on to my knowledge as done this so far, so if no one else does it then I will.

    Jeweling, is also what is called finish polishing or the last machine polishing step, again, most people associate the term with a rotary buffer but some people use a DA Polisher and use the term for their last machine polishing step.



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    Re: what is jeweling?

    Last May I was learning to use my Flex 3401 on my '07 pearl white Sonata. After two stages (Menz IP on LC orange and finishing with Menz FP on LC white) I decided to try Wolfgangs Paintwork Polish Enhancer on a LC blue pad as a "jeweling" step. I have years of experience polishing exotic woods and metal polishing so some of that was transferable to "jeweling" the paint.

    I found running the Flex at 5.5 to 6 (max speed) gave the best result. Here is what I posted:

    "Then I took your advice and tried the Wolfgang PPE on an LC blue pad, running the Flex flat out fast and used only enough pressure to maintain control. I did the test pass on the trunk lid (boot for some of you out there).

    When I wiped the area clean using a gray Cobra Supreme MF towel I was shocked ...at how brilliant, reflective, and SMOOTH the test area was. I could easily feel the transition running the MF from the WPPE area onto the Menz FP area. The pearl flakes just jumped out at me in the sun light almost like they were suspended just above the base white."

    In another post I wrote:
    "> IP on orange needed Flex speed below 4.
    > IP had short open (working) time and required spritzing with water in order to flash (faster Flex speed did not improve break down without additional water).
    > FP had longer open time.
    > FP required Flex speed of 3.75.
    >Wolfgang Paintwork Polish Enhancer on blue pad @ Flex speed 6 made a noticeable improvement in the smoothness of the finish and made the pearl flakes pop – well worth the additional step!"

    So yes, you can use a DA to "jewel" but the products you use may change your techniques to achive the results you seek.

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    Re: what is jeweling?

    Sorry Mike I completely missed it.
    CORN FED STI

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    Re: what is jeweling?

    Quote Originally Posted by gewb View Post

    I found running the Flex at 5.5 to 6 (max speed) gave the best result. Here is what I posted:
    As someone that often times digs up my own old posts to re-post, I appreciate your taking the time to do the same.


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    Re: what is jeweling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Phillips@Autogeek View Post
    When using a rotary buffer, this is one area where the Makita offers a lower RPM than most Rotary Buffers a it will turn down to 600 RPM

    Or, for those who may prefer or already own other tools but want a low speed finishing polisher, the $30 Chicago Electric rotary from Harbor Freight actually goes down to a minimum speed of 200 RPM.

    Harbor Freight Tools - Quality Tools at the Lowest Prices

    Not that I'm suggesting to necessarily use the tool at that speed, but it is an option nonetheless.
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