Meguiars 105/205 vs Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover 3.0 / Finishing Glaze 3.0

**kb2ehj** · 10-23-2009, 08:10 PM

Would it be safe to assume that these two product combo's are the same?

In what they do, obviously they are made by two different companies.

**loudog2** · 10-23-2009, 08:13 PM

105 is a compound that need to be follow-up. TSR 3.0 finishes down like power finish 203. It has a cut just below SIP and well below 105. TSR could be used as a one-step polish if paired with the right pad.

**Harleyguy** · 10-23-2009, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by loudog2

105 is a compound that need to be follow-up. TSR 3.0 finishes down like power finish 203. It has a cut just below SIP and well below 105. TSR could be used as a one-step polish if paired with the right pad.

That summed it short and sweet

**loudog2** · 10-23-2009, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by Harleyguy

That summed it short and sweet

Thanks Adam. I forgot not to abreviate. Sorry other people, don't be mad.!!

**kb2ehj** · 10-23-2009, 08:59 PM

So if for some reason I didn't want to use TSR3.0 I could use Power Finish 203 and get roughly the same results?

I'm trying to put together a list of what products basically do the same thing should I want to try something new or a product is back ordered.

Thanks to all who have or will respond.

**loudog2** · 10-23-2009, 09:02 PM

Yes, power finish 203 and Wolfgang TSR(total swirl remover) are basically the same. Just like Menzerna 106FA and Wolfgang FG(finishing glaze) are the same.

**ASPHALT ROCKET** · 10-23-2009, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by kb2ehj

Would it be safe to assume that these two product combo's are the same?

In what they do, obviously they are made by two different companies.

Not at all, first the Wolfgang is diminishing abrasives and the Meguiars products are non-diminishing. With the Megs twins you can do so much more and vary the cut with them just by changing pads. The WG stuff you are pretty much stuck only doing certain defects.

**ScottB** · 10-23-2009, 10:32 PM

while there is a big difference in the use of diminishing to non-diminishing abrasives, I have found TSR/FG to be just as versatile and actually look better at end(more gloss and reflection). IMO it also offers more safety as the abrasives break down. Megs 105 however is indeed more abrasive than TSR and could help in light compounding needs. A nice combo might be 105 and FG or as some have suggested moving ultimately to Menzerna 085rd for final polishing.

**ASPHALT ROCKET** · 10-23-2009, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by kb2ehj

So if for some reason I didn't want to use TSR3.0 I could use Power Finish 203 and get roughly the same results?

I'm trying to put together a list of what products basically do the same thing should I want to try something new or a product is back ordered.

Thanks to all who have or will respond.

Get 105, 205, and Ultrafina and you will be able to work on almost anything out there.

Mike Phillips · 10-24-2009, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by kb2ehj

Would it be safe to assume that these two product combo's are the same?

In what they do, obviously they are made by two different companies.

With a wool pad on a rotary buffer on fresh paint M105 can remove down to #1200 grit sanding marks. With a wool pad on a rotary buffer on fresh paint Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover is probably able to remove around #2000 grit sanding marks so there's a difference in aggressiveness. M105 is an aggressive cutting compound, TSR is a much less aggressive SMR.

Wolfgang TSR has a much longer buffing cycle, that is the product will buff for a long time before drying up or becoming difficult to work with. M105 has a much shorter buffing cycle and a lot of people find the need to use some type of wetting agent like M34 or even water to buff longer with the product.

Both the M205 and the Wolfgang Finishing Glaze have long buffing cycles, produce similar results and are easy to work with and easy to wipe-off.

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