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    Term "buff and wax"...seems missused..what say you?

    I see even detail bussinesses near me use the term buff and wax, its in a different price catagory than paint correction on thier website. But they have the buff and wax discription as "machine polish to remove swirls marks".

    Just doesnt make sense to me. I hate to assume..but im guessing they are using an aio? What type of machine are they using?

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    Re: Term "buff and wax"...seems missused..what say you?

    Is the B&W option more expensive than the paint correction one?

    If the B&W is less expensive maybe it’s a quick buffing step to remove lighter micromarring before applying protectant versus a heavier correction job of the other option. It is confusing either way.

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    Re: Term "buff and wax"...seems missused..what say you?

    Quote Originally Posted by hooked View Post
    Is the B&W option more expensive than the paint correction one?

    If the B&W is less expensive maybe it’s a quick buffing step to remove lighter micromarring before applying protectant versus a heavier correction job of the other option. It is confusing either way.
    Yes cheaper. And confusing for sure.

    In my mind buffing is when you use a rotary. Again maybe its just in my mind how i think when i hear the term

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    Re: Term "buff and wax"...seems missused..what say you?

    Quote Originally Posted by opie View Post
    I see even detail bussinesses near me use the term buff and wax, its in a different price catagory than paint correction on thier website. But they have the buff and wax discription as "machine polish to remove swirls marks".

    Just doesnt make sense to me. I hate to assume..but im guessing they are using an aio? What type of machine are they using?

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    Maybe a quick once over with a glaze of some sort to simply fill the defects?

    And yeah, an AIO with a heavy filler is possible

    The description is dubious


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    Re: Term "buff and wax"...seems missused..what say you?

    Quote Originally Posted by opie View Post
    Yes cheaper. And confusing for sure.

    In my mind buffing is when you use a rotary. Again maybe its just in my mind how i think when i hear the term

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    Now I am old enough that when I hear “buffer” I have visions of an old school machine with two D loop handles and bonnets

    Or one of those two headed jobs, Cyclo or something

    I’ve never owned or used a rotary so my mind doesn’t go in that direction


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    Re: Term "buff and wax"...seems missused..what say you?

    For me, the phrase "buff & wax," brings up images of a very light session with a machine and an AIO or glaze to lightly (temporarily) improve the appearance with a light wax or spray sealant applied afterwards. IMO, it's only slightly better than a quality wash (to my standards).

    For my car(s), I will routinely do a "wash & re-seal," which is a good wash (1.5+ hours), careful drying and use of an air compressor or leaf blower to remove all the hidden water to prevent later dripping, and a quality spray coating to "top off" my main sealant - as long as it is still holding strong - if not, a light clean up and polishing by machine and a reapplication of the main sealant will be done.
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    Re: Term "buff and wax"...seems missused..what say you?

    I always think of a "buff and wax" as a "tickle and a promise" from a car wash.

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    Re: Term "buff and wax"...seems missused..what say you?

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    I always think of a "buff and wax" as a "tickle and a promise" from a car wash.
    But will you respect them in the morning?


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    Re: Term "buff and wax"...seems missused..what say you?

    Maybe a gem polisher and waxer

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    Re: Term "buff and wax"...seems missused..what say you?

    John Q public knows buffing and waxing as making a car shiny. Toss out the words clay, ceramic, AIO, iron remover, detox they stare into space

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