New Ultimate Strip Wash?

[Loach]

Meguiar's Wash Plus always had the following weaknesses: How much pressure I needed to use, how small the effective working area was, and the marring aftermath.

Suppose I use an "abrasive" or "cleansing" approach during the wash process. In that case, I've got a lot of water both on the paint and in the mitt acting as a lubricant which reduces the ability of the abrasives or cleaners to bite into the surface and work effectively. This forces me to put more pressure down and load up the wash mitt more often, I'm working in a 1x1' or 2x2' section before loading the mitt back up, and I'm left with marring that needs to be cleaned up with the polisher afterward. Better to skip the Wash Plus entirely, just wash the paint regularly and go with a polisher, my arms will thank me.

I think the intent for Wash Plus wasn't to be used as a decon soap wax/sealant stripper, but to be able to bite against stubborn bug guts, certain grimy areas, or tar spots when you needed to, just load up on the mitt and tackle them with a light pressure approach. To really dig into removing LSPs, that took some serious pressure, and depending on how fresh even 2+ attempts on the same small area.

If Kamikaze can figure out how to improve on the shortcomings that I noticed with trying to use Wash Plus as a dedicated stripper, then I'd be willing to try that out until I see the standard Kamikaze price tag.

[PouncingPanzer]

So, not to get off topic, but the amateur historian(and someone closely associated with a Pacific War submarine) how is it the term "Kamikaze" came to be held in a positive light? "Divine Wind" in itself would be a catchy name, no doubt, perhaps cooler. But I can't forget October 25, 1944, when the first "Divine Wind" graced the flight decks of Taffy 3s escort carriers. Or the over 200 other USN vessels struck by them.

It just brings up some salt in the back of the mouth, if you know what I mean.

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[The Guz]

Right. He claimed it is different than Wash Plus. Hmmm

Makes me wonder if he even ever used wash plus.

[CleanIT]

Makes me wonder if he even ever used wash plus.

I bet he hasn't. Thing about Esoteric is they seem to shun the "lower tier" mainstream brands. He's definitely biased towards the boutique brands and goes for the expensive lines, which makes sense for his business.

I always joked and said I could put Tec582 in a Gyeon bottle and not tell them what it was and he'd rave about it.

[Eldorado2k]

Thing about Esoteric is they seem to shun the "lower tier" mainstream brands. He's definitely biased towards the boutique brands and goes for the expensive lines

That guy is boujee. Lol.

I'd be willing to try that out until I see the standard Kamikaze price tag.

Have you used any of that Dawn Powerwash lately for anything detail related? I recall seeing you test it in a video a while back. Curious to see if it’s something you continue to use.

[PouncingPanzer]

, then I'd be willing to try that out until I see the standard Kamikaze price tag.

Kamikazes paid the ultimate price and so shall you.

[DUBL0WS6]

Wouldn't Prepsolve do the same thing?

[Loach]

Have you used any of that Dawn Powerwash lately for anything detail related? I recall seeing you test it in a video a while back. Curious to see if it’s something you continue to use.

I actually use it quite often for dishes! For detailing I have not, but I've not been significantly testing products for the last few years, the bulk of my washes have been rinseless for the cars that I look after.

Powerwash was very strong, but I would want to test it out on a jet black panel to really see if it was etching the surface after spraying and I never did. Adam's Strip Wash I saw left etch marks where I dripped it undiluted onto a black Honda, but as soon as you dilute it in a bucket with a few gallons you really lose that strength it has.

That's always been the issue with chemical decon, it needs to be strong enough to try to cut through protection, but there's probably a fine line where it's too strong to cause etch marks that need to be polished. Or too strong for sensitive trim and rubber. So there's a usage for this style of mechanical decon during the wash process less reliant on harsher chemicals, it just needs to be efficient and marring-free, and cost-effective.

[PouncingPanzer]

I actually use it quite often for dishes! For detailing I have not, but I've not been significantly testing products for the last few years, the bulk of my washes have been rinseless for the cars that I look after.

Powerwash was very strong, but I would want to test it out on a jet black panel to really see if it was etching the surface after spraying and I never did. Adam's Strip Wash I saw left etch marks where I dripped it undiluted onto a black Honda, but as soon as you dilute it in a bucket with a few gallons you really lose that strength it has.

That's always been the issue with chemical decon, it needs to be strong enough to try to cut through protection, but there's probably a fine line where it's too strong to cause etch marks that need to be polished. Or too strong for sensitive trim and rubber. So there's a usage for this style of mechanical decon during the wash process less reliant on harsher chemicals, it just needs to be efficient and marring-free, and cost-effective.

Power wash is very strong and dries the skin like no other. The only use I have found for it outside of the kitchen sink is oil stain treatment on the driveway, does ok at that. Stain treatment on jeans too.

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[Coatingsarecrack]

Meguiar's Wash Plus always had the following weaknesses: How much pressure I needed to use, how small the effective working area was, and the marring aftermath.

Suppose I use an "abrasive" or "cleansing" approach during the wash process. In that case, I've got a lot of water both on the paint and in the mitt acting as a lubricant which reduces the ability of the abrasives or cleaners to bite into the surface and work effectively. This forces me to put more pressure down and load up the wash mitt more often, I'm working in a 1x1' or 2x2' section before loading the mitt back up, and I'm left with marring that needs to be cleaned up with the polisher afterward. Better to skip the Wash Plus entirely, just wash the paint regularly and go with a polisher, my arms will thank me.

I think the intent for Wash Plus wasn't to be used as a decon soap wax/sealant stripper, but to be able to bite against stubborn bug guts, certain grimy areas, or tar spots when you needed to, just load up on the mitt and tackle them with a light pressure approach. To really dig into removing LSPs, that took some serious pressure, and depending on how fresh even 2+ attempts on the same small area.

If Kamikaze can figure out how to improve on the shortcomings that I noticed with trying to use Wash Plus as a dedicated stripper, then I'd be willing to try that out until I see the standard Kamikaze price tag.

Man you were one of the first guys I watched and appreciated your video’s. I learned a lot from you and glad to see you back on the forums.


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