My local ceramic coating snake oil operation

[Larry A]

I worked for a dealer that had the 1500.00 paint protection. I got some of sealant from the people who put on this sealant. Its garbage, it suposed to last 7 years. It lasted about 4 months. Thats after clay and polish before putting on the sealant.

[Eric7810]

Can you tell me what kind of fake ceramic sealant this was? What specific product do these dealers use? Would like to know so I can educate my customers. Thanks.


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[2011 302]

Can you tell me what kind of fake ceramic sealant this was? What specific product do these dealers use? Would like to know so I can educate my customers. Thanks.


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Here's the package you HAVE to purchase at a northern Iowa dealer.
Just spray and wipe crap.

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[Silly Rabbit]

Here's the package you HAVE to purchase at a northern Iowa dealer.
Just spray and wipe crap.

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$1600 for what costs them probably less than $4 in materials and less then an hour labor for the staff lot attendant

[Desertnate]

Here's the package you HAVE to purchase at a northern Iowa dealer.
Just spray and wipe crap.

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While you might HAVE to pay that from that dealership, fortunately no one HAS to buy from them. It's like they are asking for savvy buyers to buy vehicles from their competition.

[Silly Rabbit]

If they are a brand dealer, not a random car dealership, don't they have to follow some of the 'franchise' type rules??? If you called tje head office of the brand and said you wanted to buy an "X" but are being pushed a fee, so are being pushed to other brands... wonder if they would step in??

[2011 302]

While you might HAVE to pay that from that dealership, fortunately no one HAS to buy from them. It's like they are asking for savvy buyers to buy vehicles from their competition.

This was from a ford dealer in decohra iowa,they had a vehicle on its way my wife wanted.
I asked if they could not put it on at arrival,big NO.
We went and looked at it,poorly applied and overspray everywhere.
We walked.

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[Desertnate]

If they are a brand dealer, not a random car dealership, don't they have to follow some of the 'franchise' type rules??? If you called tje head office of the brand and said you wanted to buy an "X" but are being pushed a fee, so are being pushed to other brands... wonder if they would step in??

Doubtful from what I understand of the franchise agreements. That's how dealerships get away with a lot of the nonsense they pull in both the sales and service departments; especially as it applies to mark-ups.

Some of the automakers have stepped up and tried to apply pressure by limiting/denying allocations due to mark-ups on certain models or forbiding mark-ups on orders of new models. However, I think those actions only apply to "market adjustments". I don't think they can do anything about massively overcharging for add-ons, or slapping every accessory on a car and then massively overcharging for those. Most just watch from the sidelines.

Based on the laws in most states, the automakers actually have very little control over how a dealership conducts business, even when it harms the automaker's brand image. As long as direct sales from an automaker is banned for the most part, these types of things will continue with little/nothing the automaker can do.

[Optimus Grime]

I can’t post links so just go on YouTube and search for How Is Diamond Ceramic Paint Protection Applied? That’s what my local Honda dealership where I bought my car uses.

After I did my coating I got an oil change there and told them not to wash my car which is exactly what they did and then they dried it off with the same dirty towels from the previous 50 cars. They put some lovely scratches on my car and the coating had not fully cured. They offered to compensate me by applying their lovely “ceramic” coating.

[dlc95]

The bassist from one of my bands bought a brand new BMW M3 last summer that the person who ordered it did end up buying.


They told him that it was ceramic coated to the tune of $3,000.00.

There was no ceramic coating applied. While it was in our parking lot a bird took a dump on it and between the time he left with his other care that we worked on the bird dump had etched the paint.

So while it there I polished it, the guys put Xpel ppf on it, and I applied Optimum Gloss Coat. He's really happy with the performance of the Gloss Coat in contrast to whatever was on there previously. It was weird to share a client with my employer though! I was paid to correct and coat, and they were paid to install the ppf...