First day using Bilt Hamber touchless.

[PouncingPanzer]

Same here. To me,applying a LSP is the main event of detailing. Because I have a garage and live in optimum detailing weather nearly all year round, I won't even consider something you apply every 1 or 2 years. It takes the fun out of everything for me.

Can I get an AMEN!!!!! It's meditation for me. I live in Ohio so only about 8 months of acceptable detailing weather(imo) but my saying is "If it's fifty(as in 50°F) make it spiffy."

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[PouncingPanzer]

When I first got Bilt-Hamber Touchless and Auto-foam I used it alot more because my car is coated, plus I'm always "boosting" up the paint. My coating is about 1.5 yrs old and still beads GREAT, especially after using Bilt-Hamber products

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You highlight my main beef with coatings. They need "boosted". So it is the coating still performing or the "boosting agent" that was just applied to it?

If a coating lasted years with just proper detergents, and not "boosters", I wouldn't have a beef with them despite my two lackluster experiences with them. The boosting this makes me raise an eyebrow.

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[Klasse Act]

You highlight my main beef with coatings. They need "boosted". So it is the coating still performing or the "boosting agent" that was just applied to it?

If a coating lasted years with just proper detergents, and not "boosters", I wouldn't have a beef with them despite my two lackluster experiences with them. The boosting this makes me raise an eyebrow.

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The boosting is more for people with a "problem" more than anything else IMO. I bet a really good coating, like what I have, could get by with just regular washes and higher pH soaps.

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[PouncingPanzer]

The coating system I previously used still beaded good after a year or so, it was just etched to hell from deicing agents sitting on it got months on end. Needed polished out. That's when I divorced them. Lol

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[Klasse Act]

The coating system I previously used still beaded good after a year or so, it was just etched to hell from deicing agents sitting on it got months on end. Needed polished out. That's when I divorced them. Lol

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Did you try a good water spot remover

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[PouncingPanzer]

Did you try a good water spot remover

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Yep. It was (correction, not UK) standard Cquartz and used CarPros Spotless. Almost ordered Optimum MDR out of desperation but figured if the one from the coating company didn't work, why would someone else's?

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[Uncbrs]

Yep. It was (correction, not UK) standard Cquartz and used CarPros Spotless. Almost ordered Optimum MDR out of desperation but figured if the one from the coating company didn't work, why would someone else's?

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I'm not well versed in water spot issues but after using my first coating I was worried I coated over some water spots. I swear they had been present in the area and I had seen them before. They were very noticeable after coating though.

I read up on a lot of options and finally tried the one from Kamikaze. While it might be meant for their coatings, it worked just fine for what I needed. I was actually planning on needing to redo the hood but it wasn't needed. The Kamikaze water spot remover worked well and the non-Kamikaze coating seems fine.

Again, just one rookie's experience with coatings and water spots here!


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[PouncingPanzer]

I'm not well versed in water spot issues but after using my first coating I was worried I coated over some water spots. I swear they had been present in the area and I had seen them before. They were very noticeable after coating though.

I read up on a lot of options and finally tried the one from Kamikaze. While it might be meant for their coatings, it worked just fine for what I needed. I was actually planning on needing to redo the hood but it wasn't needed. The Kamikaze water spot remover worked well and the non-Kamikaze coating seems fine.

Again, just one rookie's experience with coatings and water spots here!


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Thanks for sharing that experience, not sure if I was even aware of Kamikaze back in 2018.

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[Coatingsarecrack]

Yeah coatings don’t need toppings…. Do the help longevity…. Maybe…. It’s the same meditation you get from waxing for us coating users.

Labocosmetica 3ph Wash to decon a coating is suppose to tackle waterspots.

And I’ll be honest I don’t know if toppers actually stay on coatings. Anyrhing I put on a coated car performs like the coating underneath as to when I use it on a stand alone on uncoated paint. Definitely the coating’s there…

I do it because I think we as humans like to apply things to things. I feel I “see” and notice a difference but I can see argument against


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[Optimus Grime]

Same here. To me,applying a LSP is the main event of detailing. Because I have a garage and live in optimum detailing weather nearly all year round, I won't even consider something you apply every 1 or 2 years. It takes the fun out of everything for me.

I completely get this now. My car is coated but sometimes I do feel cheated because I can’t try out something new without breaking out the polisher. Then again I do like having long term protection that I don’t need to worry about, especially when life get’s ahead of me and time is a luxury. Damned if I do, damned if I don’t.