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    Re: I'm about done with ceramic coatings, not worth it , need suggestions

    Quote Originally Posted by 98CayenneTA View Post
    Not one of the non coating products is making it through a Minnesota winter.

    I can fire my car through a touchless wash in February and have it come out looking like a fresh summer wash.

    A Si02 spray, wax or sealant is not doing that nor is it even going to last until February if applied in the fall
    Who said that they would?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rick100 View Post
    In term of looks , sorry but thats a myth. Look at the pictures . My brothers car looks exactly the same , cant tell the difference that one panel is not coated. Even the optó coating on my bmw was the same. I had to repolished one day and only applied reload after. Couldnt tell the difference

    Hydrophobic and self cleaning is another myth. After a rain the whole car looks exactly the same. I blow dey my audi and the water moves out exactly the same. On top of that a lot of people use toppers so wouldnt the clearcoat adhere rhe characteristics of the top layer???

    Anyways that’s just my experience

    In the case of opticoating on my white bmw. It was actually done by a pro .

    First of all can’t tell much from pictures. And not a myth just your experience was different.

    I absolutely saw a gloss difference from my coated car and uncoated hood.

    Many test with gloss meters could be different.

    Maybe it was your paint, your environment, that particular coating, your eyes. There are a lot of test done and references given by trusted sources to prove it’s no myth.

    As for your first part agreed no more scratch protection and yes I have read more susceptible to water spots.

    Disagree on self cleaning as car would look cleaner on coated vs uncoated parts.


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    Re: I'm about done with ceramic coatings, not worth it , need suggestions

    Quote Originally Posted by PaulMys View Post
    Who said that they would?
    Nobody, just stating facts and stiring the pot.
    Ripping through your mind like a hurricane full of novocaine

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    Re: I'm about done with ceramic coatings, not worth it , need suggestions

    Quote Originally Posted by 98CayenneTA View Post
    Nobody, just stating facts and stiring the pot.
    Yup. Typical coating guy.................
    It is no coincidence that man's best friend cannot talk.

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    Re: I'm about done with ceramic coatings, not worth it , need suggestions

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Orosco View Post
    All coatings can get spotting, from light to heavy.

    Anthony
    That is your opinion, it is not a fact.

    Not trying to pick a fight with you but just wanted to point that out. My experience with some of the coatings I have tried is not the same as yours.
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    Re: I'm about done with ceramic coatings, not worth it , need suggestions

    Quote Originally Posted by PaulMys View Post
    Yup. Typical coating guy.................
    Ripping through your mind like a hurricane full of novocaine

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    Re: I'm about done with ceramic coatings, not worth it , need suggestions

    Damn this thread blew up! Lol.
    I read the beginning posts last night but not the rest yet… All I know is my car’s oblivious when it comes to rain and I fear no sprinklers because my sealant boldly claims to protect from water spots and has never let me down. I love me some beads. Detailing wouldn’t be the same without them. Lol.

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    Re: I'm about done with ceramic coatings, not worth it , need suggestions

    Quote Originally Posted by Eldorado2k View Post
    Damn this thread blew up! Lol.
    I read the beginning posts last night but not the rest yet… All I know is my car’s oblivious when it comes to rain and I fear no sprinklers because my sealant boldly claims to protect from water spots and has never let me down. I love me some beads. Detailing wouldn’t be the same without them. Lol.
    What sealant you runnin eldo?

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    Re: I'm about done with ceramic coatings, not worth it , need suggestions

    I read a comment on youtube that echoed a similar sentiment.

    He switched to Duragloss 601 + 105, and hasn't had any issues with water spots since.

    I'm having luck with Optimum Gloss Coat getting hit with sprinkler water every morning. It usually will clean up with and ONR wash. The water is hard, but not as hard as at my house.

    I have a well at my house and the water is incredibly hard. I doubt a smooth surface exists that it can't spot.

    Gliss v2 should work good for ya, but as stated you really need to let it cure. Last summer I had it on one side of my hood and Optimum Car Wax on the other. Those sprinklers came on and the sun came out, which resulted in those infamous water spots. The OCW side cleaned up perfectly. The Gliss side ended up getting polished off... I don't think it cured long enough. It was only a week or so old.

    Buy you have to use what you want. If that puts you with a sealant or wax, so be it. Ultimately you're the one applying and maintaining your choice of paint protection.

    I've seen cars come back at work for maintained washes. They're all coated in either Ceramic Pro or Xpel Fusion. Some come back with water spots, and some come back without them... We have zero control of what happens with these cars once they leave the premises.

    I'm more of a sealant guy in the winter and wax guy in the summer. I have a ceramic on the gf's Jeep, but she couldn't care less what I use as long as it's clean.

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