Cancoat evo bad experience or not?

[rick100]

As some of you may alredy know. Last week i applied evo pure coating on my black audi. After 10 days of curing i decided to washed the car and applied cancoat evo on top. It rained quite a bit last week so removing the water spots was a bit of a pain. I had to use ipa on some spot on the hood but the car was ready for cancoat

I ve decided to use esoteric method of applying cancoat spray on the microfiber and doing small sections. I started on the hood and pretty much gave up. Let me start by saying the spray method is a pain , real pain because it goes everwhere so i had to make sure it only went onto the microfiber. The coating itself is sticky and not slick, it does not come off easy , its even worst than a ceramic coating because u are not applying it with a suede block or microfiber applicator. The car is black so it makes it worst because i had to go over 5 or 6 times just to make sure they were not darker spots. Working on small sections also make it harder as u end up going back to the sections u already did, which against causes darker spots there. Furthermore the fast curing time makes it harder to go back and fix the spot u missed.

I ll be honest , the car being black doesnt help, the lighting in my garage is not the best so it doesnt help neither. Not going to lie , i would rather just do a second coat of ceramic coating instead of cancoat or i would apply cancoat with a suede applicator or microfiber applicator, treat it like a true ceramic coating next time


Overall thoughts are i would rather use carpro gliss as a topper rather than cancoat

I would even argue that carpro lite was easier to apply than cancoat evo.

Even pure was easier to come off and it is as slick as cancoat

 

[Klasse Act]

I've sub'd to the thread to learn about CanCoat EVO

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[fly07sti]

I have used many bottles of the first version of CanCoat & currently am on my 2nd bottle of CanCoat Evo. Can be tricky if you’re trying to apply like a “traditional” coating in a small glass bottle. It does not apply the same. Less is more with CanCoat. What was your goal of applying CanCoat so long after installing Pure?

 

[opie2]

Yes less is definatly more, and it does kinda suck to do black with can coat evo. Both times ive used it so far was with a autofiber coating applicator and applied it to the surface similar to a coating.

Next time i am going to buy some empty mini spray bottles so i can put in the 10-15ml and work with that. That should in theory keep me from using more than needed.

I believe it was Ttq b4u that had once said this is how he does it
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[rick100]

I have used many bottles of the first version of CanCoat & currently am on my 2nd bottle of CanCoat Evo. Can be tricky if you’re trying to apply like a “traditional” coating in a small glass bottle. It does not apply the same. Less is more with CanCoat. What was your goal of applying CanCoat so long after installing Pure?

10 days is so long after applying pure??


Goal was to have a sacrificial layer with some slickness which i thought was the point of cancoat...

Just like carpro has cquartz and gliss. I know it's not the same but for what i ve read cancoat has characteristics pure does not.

In any case i applied to the hood and that is it. Ended up putting carpro reload to the remaining of the car which i had a small bottle from last year. Zero regrets with car pro reload. Easy to apply, very slick, like the looks. I m sure it ll last a month or so but that is ok .


I m more pissed off about throwing 5 towels to the garbage trying to level cancoat on the hood.

I didnt applied it heavy at all. Literally followed esoteric video.

This is my seventh time or so applying a coating. Have done cquartz lite, cquartz uk, pure, theblast coat black ice ( not a true coating but ita apply like a coating)

 

[rick100]

Yes less is definatly more, and it does kinda suck to do black with can coat evo. Both times ive used it so far was with a autofiber coating applicator and applied it to the surface similar to a coating.

Next time i am going to buy some empty mini spray bottles so i can put in the 10-15ml and work with that. That should in theory keep me from using more than needed.

I believe it was Ttq b4u that had once said this is how he does it
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I honestly think using a suede applicator would work better which is what i m going to do next on my next car. Even a microfiber applicator should work in small sections.

Spraying on a microfiber towel sucks, specially on a black car. The coating is too thick.

It s like applying a true ceramic coating with a microfiber towel. Never again will a try that. It was actually easier to apply pure evo which is why i said i would rather do 2 coats of purd evo before i try cancoat with a microfiber towel.

I also think that droplets type of application would work better than spraying.

Next time i ll treat it like a ceramoc coating application. Its very very similar yo what i have experience with car pro lite

Not sure about the old formula, maybe it was different .

 

[rick100]

Which brings me to my other point. This is my fault too for being so OCD or looking for prefection

Never again im wasting so many microfiber towels on a coating for 1 car lol. Literally i lost count but i went througj at least 12 towels between pure evo and can coat. All brand spanking new. It hurts

Next time one application of either pure or cancoat. Topper will be reload or something similar.

 

[dgage]

Just to be sure, you’re wiping CanCoat on and then immediately wiping it off right? It flashes almost immediately so you should be able to wipe it off almost immediately without worrying about it spreading around. But you seem to say the wiping towel spread it more? That isn’t my experience with CanCoat. What were the weather conditions when you were applying it?

 

[opie2]

Never again im wasting so many microfiber towels on a coating for 1 car lol. Literally i lost count but i went througj at least 12 towels between pure evo and can coat. All brand spanking new. It hurts
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Umm why the hell are you throwing your towels away???!!! just wash them and they will be fine.

Ive done numerous coatings with the same towels...just wash after each job.

That suff dont harden that fast

Also if you did not already...watch the guz video on pure/cancoat evo


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[rick100]

Just to be sure, you’re wiping CanCoat on and then immediately wiping it off right? It flashes almost immediately so you should be able to wipe it off almost immediately without worrying about it spreading around. But you seem to say the wiping towel spread it more? That isn’t my experience with CanCoat. What were the weather conditions when you were applying it?

yes on and off , exactly how they do it in the esoteric video. Temperature today was 18 degrees ( 65 f) so it was not hot or cold , inside a garage . The issue that i was having is that it does not spread out or wipe off easy. I did small sections , using rag company ceramic coating level towel and rag companies 350 gsm towels for final wipe.

the issue is that this coating is thick , almost like car pro lite , so trying to apply it with a microfiber towel is not ideal ( at least for me) , i m sure it would ve been different if i use a suede aplicator or microfiber aplicator . It does seem to remove easy under a normal lighting but once you see it from a different angle with different light you can clearly see darker spots . I even thought that i had remove everything and I took the car outside just to check since this is the first time using this coating , once the car was outside I found 2 small spots where it was darker . I quickly fix the issue .

I could only imagine if I had those small spots all over the car , this is the reason I did not put it all over the car.

The hood looks great , its not as slick as I would ve like , so its not a bad coating , but application is an issue for me, specially on a black metallic car

 

[rick100]

Umm why the hell are you throwing your towels away???!!! just wash them and they will be fine.

Ive done numerous coatings with the same towels...just wash after each job.

That suff dont harden that fast

Also if you did not already...watch the guz video on pure/cancoat evo


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lol probably, but just the thought of one not being good is too much .

 

[The Guz]

It has been brought up before that CanCoat is not a slick product. From your post it is a bad experience. It is one of the easiest products to use and is all about speed.

I covered the multiple applications in my review. If you don't want your bottle feel free to send over to me. I will gladly take it off your hands.

Review - Gyeon CanCoat Evo

 

[rick100]

It has been brought up before that CanCoat is not a slick product. From your post it is a bad experience. It is one of the easiest products to use and is all about speed.

I covered the multiple applications in my review. If you don't want your bottle feel free to send over to me. I will gladly take it off your hands.

Review - Gyeon CanCoat Evo

I would give it to you if you were somewhat local to me , but I live in toronto lol

I ll give it another try with my other car but I will try a different application next time . It could be speed too , but i m not sure how much faster I can get, I literally put it on and wipe off . Looking back I think that maybe I was covering too much area?, I did 1/4 of the hood in one application and to be fair the lines on the audi sportback are pretty sharp , anyways , I ll play around with it , that bottle is too fk big so I can practice with other cars.

 

[Desertnate]

Never again im wasting so many microfiber towels on a coating for 1 car lol. Literally i lost count but i went througj at least 12 towels between pure evo and can coat. All brand spanking new. It hurts

Wow! 12 towels? Depending on the vehicle, I'll use 2~4 towels. When coating my wife's SUV a few weeks ago with CQUK I think I used 3 for the coating application process. Same for when I used CanCoat if memory serves. When applying CanCoat to a smaller car like the GTI I owned at the time, I only used 2.

Umm why the hell are you throwing your towels away???!!! just wash them and they will be fine.

Ive done numerous coatings with the same towels...just wash after each job.

That suff dont harden that fast

Exactly. If you want to really lower the risk of hardening, keep a bucket with an APC/Water solution handy and as you finish with each towel, stick it in the bucket immediately and leave them there until you throw them in the washing machine.

 

[rick100]

Wow! 12 towels? Depending on the vehicle, I'll use 2~4 towels. When coating my wife's SUV a few weeks ago with CQUK I think I used 3 for the coating application process. Same for when I used CanCoat if memory serves. When applying CanCoat to a smaller car like the GTI I owned at the time, I only used 2.



Exactly. If you want to really lower the risk of hardening, keep a bucket with an APC/Water solution handy and as you finish with each towel, stick it in the bucket immediately and leave them there until you throw them in the washing machine.

I used 6 for pure evo. It turn out great , only one high spot after application which i was able to fix without polishing

Can coat was at least 4 towels, kept going back lol. So maybe 10 towels

 

[evo77]

I think this is a case of a misunderstanding of the process and products, improper technique and high expectations of a particular outcome.

No worries though - you live and learn. That is why this forum exists so take heed of the great advice/experience given from others.


That being said, I will add that I think 65 degrees may have been on the very low end of the preferred application environment which may have caused the bad experience (stickiness to apply/remove). That's because you may have needed to wait for it to flash a little longer than typical. OR you may have just been over applying which is a reason why you thought you had to use way too many towels. Too much product and not waiting long enough to flash = horrible removal.

I can't remember who gave this advice here (may have been Mike P) but you can try different application methods in small sections to determine which works best in your environment. Apply in maybe 8x8 inch areas. Do one with a wait time of 1 minute then another section in 2 minutes then another in 3 minutes, whatever works where the removal comes off easy. Once you fine tune it, you do it to the rest of the vehicle.

Remember, you also don't need to apply a lot. Just look at Gyeons video. He literally sprayed TWICE in a towel and spread it over roughly a 2x2 foot area, working it in then flipping towel to buff off residual.

 

[rick100]

I think this is a case of a misunderstanding of the process and products, improper technique and high expectations of a particular outcome.

No worries though - you live and learn. That is why this forum exists so take heed of the great advice/experience given from others.


That being said, I will add that I think 65 degrees may have been on the very low end of the preferred application environment which may have caused the bad experience (stickiness to apply/remove). That's because you may have needed to wait for it to flash a little longer than typical. OR you may have just been over applying which is a reason why you thought you had to use way too many towels. Too much product and not waiting long enough to flash = horrible removal.

I can't remember who gave this advice here (may have been Mike P) but you can try different application methods in small sections to determine which works best in your environment. Apply in maybe 8x8 inch areas. Do one with a wait time of 1 minute then another section in 2 minutes then another in 3 minutes, whatever works where the removal comes off easy. Once you fine tune it, you do it to the rest of the vehicle.

Remember, you also don't need to apply a lot. Just look at Gyeons video. He literally sprayed TWICE in a towel and spread it over roughly a 2x2 foot area, working it in then flipping towel to buff off residual.

I ve looked at all those videos , highly doubt I applied too much ... if anything I probably applied too little , literally 2 sprays on a small portion or a microfiber towel for one area ...

funny that I was able to do gyeon pure evo coating which is a full on ceramic coating without any issues but cancoat which is supposed to be a entry level lite ceramic coating gives me trouble lol

if there is different application methods to determine which works best for the environment then this is not the product for me lol.. It sounds like too much effort for a spray on product already. I may understand that on a true ceramic coating . BTW car pro lite which was on the car previously was apply in cooler temperature and i had zero issues, same goes for car pro gliss . I applied that combo on 4 different cars last year, at different temperatures ( summer , fall ) no issues except for 1 high spot on fender on my black audi ( of course the black audi)


but I m going to give it another try in a few weeks. Will report back , this time a pearl white cadillac . This time I will try different techniques to see what works better

 

[CleanIT]

I ve looked at all those videos , highly doubt I applied too much ... if anything I probably applied too little , literally 2 sprays on a small portion or a microfiber towel for one area ...

funny that I was able to do gyeon pure evo coating which is a full on ceramic coating without any issues but cancoat which is supposed to be a entry level lite ceramic coating gives me trouble lol

if there is different application methods to determine which works best for the environment then this is not the product for me lol.. It sounds like too much effort for a spray on product already. I may understand that on a true ceramic coating . BTW car pro lite which was on the car previously was apply in cooler temperature and i had zero issues, same goes for car pro gliss . I applied that combo on 4 different cars last year, at different temperatures ( summer , fall ) no issues except for 1 high spot on fender on my black audi ( of course the black audi)


but I m going to give it another try in a few weeks. Will report back , this time a pearl white cadillac . This time I will try different techniques to see what works better

Can't speak about Evo, but found regular CC to be easy as long as you wipe on/off fairly quickly.

I would say Optimum Gloss Coat is also as easy as CC.

 

[Coatingsarecrack]

I have used many bottles of the first version of CanCoat & currently am on my 2nd bottle of CanCoat Evo. Can be tricky if you’re trying to apply like a “traditional” coating in a small glass bottle. It does not apply the same. Less is more with CanCoat. What was your goal of applying CanCoat so long after installing Pure?

How do you apply?


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[Coatingsarecrack]

I ve looked at all those videos , highly doubt I applied too much ... if anything I probably applied too little , literally 2 sprays on a small portion or a microfiber towel for one area ...

funny that I was able to do gyeon pure evo coating which is a full on ceramic coating without any issues but cancoat which is supposed to be a entry level lite ceramic coating gives me trouble lol

if there is different application methods to determine which works best for the environment then this is not the product for me lol.. It sounds like too much effort for a spray on product already. I may understand that on a true ceramic coating . BTW car pro lite which was on the car previously was apply in cooler temperature and i had zero issues, same goes for car pro gliss . I applied that combo on 4 different cars last year, at different temperatures ( summer , fall ) no issues except for 1 high spot on fender on my black audi ( of course the black audi)


but I m going to give it another try in a few weeks. Will report back , this time a pearl white cadillac . This time I will try different techniques to see what works better

One variable most haven’t mention is your applying it on top of another coating. I felt OG CC was kinda sticky when applying on Cquartz.

I switch to using an AF Saver applicator from a MF towel and applied it with an eye dropper. Did a full panel and then removed. Worked well.


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