Foam cannon / foam in general

[dgage]

Probably gonna ruffle some feathers but I have never understood the infatuation with foam cannons & foam. I tried it a few times and have never seen the benifit or any difference from using it.

And here is the question I would like to see if i can get some responses to one way or the other---How many people can honestly say they see a significant difference when they use one?

And I could be wrong on this part but I dont see the established pro's using them. Dont recall ever seeing MP use them. How about the the pro's on here who regularly post and list all of their products & tooling-- I dont recall ever seeing a foam cannon or foaming listed.

There are two parts to this.

One is the foam cannon (pressure washer) with a pre-rinse (stronger) foaming soap meant to encapsulate and remove some dirt prior to a contact wash. That helps some but still requires a contact wash. But that contact wash will have less dirt though harder to quantify how much it helps.

The second is the extreme wash method, which uses a foam gun (hose) and is constantly foaming while washing with a wash mitt so you’re getting constant lubrication and a water/soap mixture encapsulating and removing dirt.

[Klasse Act]

There are two parts to this.

One is the foam cannon (pressure washer) with a pre-rinse (stronger) foaming soap meant to encapsulate and remove some dirt prior to a contact wash. That helps some but still requires a contact wash. But that contact wash will have less dirt though harder to quantify how much it helps.

The second is the extreme wash method, which uses a foam gun (hose) and is constantly foaming while washing with a wash mitt so you’re getting constant lubrication and a water/soap mixture encapsulating and removing dirt.

Well when a car is legitimately dirty a contact was is in order BUT a high quality pre-wash soap can virtually eliminate all the dirt and what's left behind makes it so easy a cheap ass dollar store carwash would work (just for effect, none of us even have that, well maybe Chemical Guys)

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[dgage]

Well when a car is legitimately dirty a contact was is in order BUT a high quality pre-wash soap can virtually eliminate all the dirt and what's left behind makes it so easy a cheap ass dollar store carwash would work (just for effect, none of us even have that, well maybe Chemical Guys)

I’d say that depends on a lot of variables but based on various tests I’ve seen on here, with few exceptions, a contact wash of some sort is usually required to get a car CLEAN after a pressure washer foam cannon rinse.

I guess a question is are we talking truly clean or looks clean? I certainly wouldn’t dry my car with a towel and drying aid without having first done a contact wash. If I’m just blow drying the car then maybe a foam rinse is enough but that might leave a film eventually. Hard to quantify what is truly clean or clean enough.

[UncleDavy]

Foam is fun. The foam gun eliminates the wash bucket as you are spraying foam directly on the surface. Using multiple wash mitts reduces scratches. The foam cannon is a prewash for me. Is it necessary? Probably not, but it sure is fun.

[Klasse Act]

I’d say that depends on a lot of variables but based on various tests I’ve seen on here, with few exceptions, a contact wash of some sort is usually required to get a car CLEAN after a pressure washer foam cannon rinse.

I guess a question is are we talking truly clean or looks clean? I certainly wouldn’t dry my car with a towel and drying aid without having first done a contact wash. If I’m just blow drying the car then maybe a foam rinse is enough but that might leave a film eventually. Hard to quantify what is truly clean or clean enough.

Good point but today my car was days dusty and I didn't need a towel to dry it. I used 1 oz of Bilt-Hamber Auto-foam and 32 oz of water in my brand new Griot's Garage hose foamer and no contact wash was needed. That said, legit dirt, I don't care what it "looks like" after a pre-wash with Bilt-Hamber Touchless or Auto-foam, I'm doing a 2BM

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[Big Dave]

To completely clean your vehicle you need to do a contact wash, but if I foam it first, the rinse bucket is a lot cleaner at the end, this shows me that I've removed a lot of dirt before I even make physical contact with the paint, more than if I just do a hose rinse pre wash. That's got to be a good thing, less dirt on the surface equals less chance of damage to the paint.

In saying that, I didn't foam yesterday before my contact wash, it was 2 weeks worth of road film, virtually sprayed on by rain everyday, it wasn't very dirty and I just didn't think foaming would remove very much, so I went straight to the 2 bucket wash.

All my own opinion of course, but you have to do what works for you.

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[luckydawg]

I have been talking to MP this week by PM on the 3D Forum on another subject, I will be sure to write him and tell him he is a hack...

I guess your being funny calling him a hack- at least I hope

But since your gonna be getting with him for sure this week, just ask him percentage wise, roughly, how often he uses a foam cannon when he washes a car

Then post it in this thread

[chilly]

I guess your being funny calling him a hack- at least I hope

But since your gonna be getting with him for sure this week, just ask him percentage wise, roughly, how often he uses a foam cannon when he washes a car

Then post it in this thread

I was being VERY facetious...

I figured it showed

He has forgotten more than I will ever know

He is asking Tunch Goren a couple of questions the next time he sees him and he said he will get back to me and I will run this by him then

I respect your opinions and beliefs and hope you do the same

I doubt many of us ever take the exact same route to get to our goal and there is noting wrong with that

I am a hobby detailer and retired to boot and other than fighting sun and wind I have all the time in the world to wash a car

In my situation foaming, pressure washing, pretreating, contact washing, etc all have a time and place and although I can't show you absolute proof that foaming cuts down on swirls, rids, etc I THINK it does and foaming makes me feel better about the overall process

It costs pennies in product, a small amount of water, gives me peace of mind, and as I said my time is free so why not?

As always, your mileage may vary

Peace

[Bill D]

Uh oh, my process doesn’t cost pennies in product and water but I’m saving my clear and the hours of labor to polish the car once or twice a year so I continue with my wash process which,above everything else,makes me happy.

[chilly]

Uh oh, my process doesn’t cost pennies in product and water but I’m saving my clear and the hours of labor to polish the car once or twice a year so I continue with my wash process which,above everything else,makes me happy.

And for us hobby types that’s the bottom line; saved clear coat and a happy camper

Well said sir


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