Having trouble with hard black paint

[Billy Baldone]

I know you have figured it out at this point. But I have had great 1 step results using a 3401 Buff N Shine Blueberry pad with Menzerna 400

[ToroInu]

If it is the edgeless 300's those should work. Try it on a small section first. If those don't work then the 365's will work for sure. I tried the pearl and I was not a fan of them.

They are not the edgeles. They are just general multipurpose mf towels 300gsm 80/20 marketed by TRC. I’ll likely buy some more edgeless 365 for leveling and general use.

I’m also thinking about switching to Gtechniq panel wipe since I’m running low on Gyeon prep. Also heard panel wipe will do a better job ripping off oils/polishes with less product and one wipe to reduce additional contact to the paint

[ToroInu]

Glad to hear you got to the bottom this....towels can drive you nuts.
I run into issue doing windows all the time with certain towels.
Find what works, and go buy 30 of them......LOL


post up some pics when you are done

I’ve always thought a mf towel is a mf towel. How wrong was I….

As much as I like to correct the whole car now, I still want to wait another 2 weeks for that 30 day mark on my repainted bumper. Heard it should be fine but just playing it safe.

So I’ll just have to drive around with patches of test spot until then. Another reason why I chose the door panel as the test spot as it doesnt come in contact with the sun/rain as much as the hood

[The Guz]

Be aware that Gtechniq panel wipe is strong and that it will marr soft paint. It’s been recommended to dilute it 1:1 for softer paints.

[ToroInu]

Be aware that Gtechniq panel wipe is strong and that it will marr soft paint. It’s been recommended to dilute it 1:1 for softer paints.

I heard it’s strong stuff and I was planning to spray it onto a Mf towel to perform the wipe off as opposed to on the panel with Gyeon prep. I’ll keep that in mind.

Would you suggest me going with Gyeon prep again or maybe Carpro eraser? I know a lot of detailers use eraser and prep as an ipa wipe before applying a coating

[Eldorado2k]

I heard it’s strong stuff and I was planning to spray it onto a Mf towel to perform the wipe off as opposed to on the panel with Gyeon prep. I’ll keep that in mind.

That won’t make a difference.

[Bosko]

over priced and rated IMO

[ToroInu]

over priced and rated IMO

Would the windex solution you mentioned earlier be the preferred method as a last wipe down for oils?

[Bosko]

Would the windex solution you mentioned earlier be the preferred method as a last wipe down for oils?

That is one method.
But I use a 90% IPA...with @50% with distilled water...my preference.
You can go straight 90% if you want stronger, but I don't think it needs to be that strong to get the results you need.

With your paint, you may again have to do a test spot to see/get the results you are looking for.

[The Guz]

I heard it’s strong stuff and I was planning to spray it onto a Mf towel to perform the wipe off as opposed to on the panel with Gyeon prep. I’ll keep that in mind.

Would you suggest me going with Gyeon prep again or maybe Carpro eraser? I know a lot of detailers use eraser and prep as an ipa wipe before applying a coating

Just dilute it if you get panel wipe. I’ve moved to the gallon of Meguiar’s M122 surface prep for a panel.

Eraser is good as well.