Blackfire AIO plan

**Burger** · 07-16-2021, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by 2black1s

Try Meguiar's D115 Rinse Free Express Wash & Wax. It's a similar product to the Ultimate Waterless Wash & Wax but it is available by the gallon and can be diluted up to 20:1. Much more cost-effective than the Ultimate.

I use it regularly on my black vehicles at 4:1 dilution. Buying it by the gallon is so cost-effective that I haven't even tried higher dilutions. I prefer the additional safety margin of the 4:1 dilution, even if the additional safety margin is only in my head.

I just looked back at your "after bike trip" post to see what you are using on your black Street Glide. Same Meguiar's as I'm using on my white cars. Maybe I will do a side by side test on my black Road Glide. One saddlebag Meguiar's, one saddlebag BF Ice.

If either attracts less dirt road dust, it will be my go to.

**Burger** · 07-16-2021, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by 2black1s

I use it a little differently than the label... Kind of a hybrid rinseless/waterless process.

I mist it on, then wipe with a towel saturated with D115, and follow up with two clean dry towels for final buff. In areas that I don't want any overspray from misting it on, I'll just use the saturated rag. This method is especially useful on my bikes as the mist overspray is a real issue there.

I do the exact same process on cars. But not on my bikes. On the bikes, soaked microfiber, squeezed out microfiber, and Griots PFM. I think Harley paint is even softer than Toyota. Picture your black bike after a day of dirt pull outs and parking lots. Mine is that dirty before I get to the pavement. I might carry a soaked microfiber in a sealed tumbler and a drying towel in the saddlebag.

**2black1s** · 07-16-2021, 04:02 PM

I feel for you and the dirt road. I don't know how I would handle that.

**Burger** · 07-16-2021, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by 2black1s

I feel for you and the dirt road. I don't know how I would handle that.

It SUCKS for So. Cal. clean car boy! (me)

But; 10 acres, quiet, no neighbors, and my shop faces a few thousand acres of open land. Still...SUCKS for clean vehicles.

**2black1s** · 07-16-2021, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by Burger

... I think Harley paint is even softer than Toyota...

What year is your Road Glide? I have a 2002 Deuce and a 2019 Ultra Limited. In between I also had a 2011 and 2017 Ultra Limited.

On the '02 and '11 bikes I agree that the paint is as soft as anything. But somewhere along the way between '11 and '17 that changed. The paint on my '17 and my current '19 is no where near as soft as the earlier bikes.