Help me decide Rinseless Wash for this winter

**gorillapr** · 09-01-2020, 05:11 PM

So I'm almost out of my ONR 32oz bottle and are like halfway of my Wolfgang Uber Rinseless Wash, I love Uber, is super slick opposed to ONR like Im always worried to scratch the surface even when everybody says is safe because it feels like water. Also Uber leaves a really nice shine and gloss behind that I really like. So why this thread if I love Uber so much? Well, I plan to install some Polish Angel products on my wife's car for the winter and FK 1000p on my car and Ethos Ceramic Wax on my other car and I don't want Uber to mess with the look or the water behavior. So looking my options I only found 2 products that allegendly leaves nothing behind:

McKee's37 N-914
Feynlab Pure Rinseless

I'm not too concerned about Feynlab be strong because my OCD makes me top my cars' LSP every other wash.

1) Is ONR really that good and I should ignore how it feels and just trust it because is totally safe???
basically it leaves nothing behid, the polymers that leaves are more for drying aid rather than looks or slickness

2) I'm I over thinking this and Uber is perfectly fine and I can top it with anything and will not affect the protection???

3) I was using the Big Red Sponge as my wash media but on my last wash I changed to 3 Chenille mitts (top/front/back, rigth, left) are anyone else using chenille mitt and also thinks is safer than the BRS???

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**57Rambler** · 09-01-2020, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by gorillapr

2) I'm I over thinking this and Uber is perfectly fine and I can top it with anything and will not affect the protection???

I use Uber and have not noticed any significant impact on the LSP's "look" or water behavior. But then I am only using sealants (Duragloss 105 & WDGPS) on our vehicles.

3) I was using the Big Red Sponge as my wash media but on my last wash I changed to 3 Chenille mitts (top/front/back, rigth, left) are anyone else using chenille mitt and also thinks is safer than the BRS???

The safest way to go would be to use even more wash media. Like Mike and others, I have gone to using a dozen of these for my rinseless washes.

Cobra 12 Pack Forrest Green Edgeless Microfiber Polishing Cloths

**PaulMys** · 09-01-2020, 05:52 PM

I'll second the Uber on sealants & waxes.

But whichever one you decide on, pre-treat to the max, and use the RW heavy (dripping).

I have fallen in love with Griot's plush edgeless for RW's.

They are like mini PFM's. they hold a ton of water/product.

**gorillapr** · 09-01-2020, 06:10 PM

I normally use Opti Clean to pre soak and it works really nice.

I had doubt on the solution itself with Ethos Ceramic Wax/D3fy and with Polish Angel White Alabaster

I know the polymers on Uber will not be durable but my concern is if I do the rinseless wash and then want to top it with the other product right away

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**noorth** · 09-01-2020, 06:15 PM

CarPro ECH2o always pops up with these type of products it seems.

**gorillapr** · 09-01-2020, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by noorth

CarPro ECH2o always pops up with these type of products it seems.

Yeah, I was trying to use 1 rinseless for all 3 cars but maybe that will not be possible...

Is ONR not that good anymore compare to the others? Did it stick to the past?

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**PaulMys** · 09-01-2020, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by gorillapr

Yeah, I was trying to use 1 rinseless for all 3 cars but maybe that will not be possible...

Is ONR not that good anymore compare to the others? Did it stick to the past?

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ONR is a great product for encapsulating dirt. Amazing, really.

I still use ONR for a pre-treat prior to any RW. JMO.

**gorillapr** · 09-01-2020, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by PaulMys

ONR is a great product for encapsulating dirt. Amazing, really.

I still use ONR for a pre-treat prior to any RW. JMO.

Just curious, why not use it as yor rinseless?

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**PaulMys** · 09-01-2020, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by gorillapr

Just curious, why not use it as yor rinseless?

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JMO, but even though ONR encapsulates dirt, it is a little less slick feeling than Uber.

Have I found that using Uber vs. ONR (correctly) has left less micro marring? The answer is no.

It could just be in my head, but the slicker feel of Uber just eases my mind when using RW's.

**acuRAS82** · 09-02-2020, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by gorillapr

Yeah, I was trying to use 1 rinseless for all 3 cars but maybe that will not be possible...

If you were to use M37 N-914 you could certainly use it for any and all cars/LSPs.

Probably the same with Uber but I can’t guarantee it. I think the PA White Alabaster will be fine right after Uber. FK1000p should definitely be fine on fresh Uber. Ethos Ceramic Wax is the one I don’t know much about and whether it can be applied and maintain max performance/durability on top of a freshly washed Uber RW. It might be iffy if the wax says it requires a bare surface or fresh coating to latch on to... but my large gut tells me that most ceramic waxes would dissolve the light polymers left behind by Uber.

Feynlab Pure Rinseless would leave nothing behind and could be topped by any LSO but obviously may impact the strength of the underlying layer of LSP if that even matters.