McKee's 360

[CleanIT]

I was wondering if anyone had experience with McKee's 360 and what the expected durability is?

[Eldorado2k]

IME 3-4 weeks tops. Just like every other AIO I’ve ever tried, and I’ve tried just about all of them.

[CleanIT]

Do you think it's ok to apply a sealant after a month or so as is?

[Eldorado2k]

Do you think it's ok to apply a sealant after a month or so as is?

IME trying to immediately top an AIO with a dedicated liquid sealant doesn’t work out so well, as theres simply too much interference to allow the sealant to properly bond, resulting in a breakdown of any solid protection. It was as if the AIO brought it down to its level...

However when I let it stand alone for a week or 2 [in this case HD Speed] and then began a steady topping with Beadmaker as a drying aid after every wash it worked seamlessly and that protection lasted over 6 months and I have no doubt it would’ve lasted a whole year without allowing contaminants to bond to the paint.

I’m talking baggie test passing smooth as glass paint! Real protection. BeadMaker can truly do it, but it must be used frequently. I’m still using it on my current daily driver. It’s so slick to wipedown the paint when there’s no bonded contaminants.

[Mikem3574]

IME trying to immediately top an AIO with a dedicated liquid sealant doesn’t work out so well, as theres simply too much interference to allow the sealant to properly bond, resulting in a breakdown of any solid protection. It was as if the AIO brought it down to its level...

However when I let it stand alone for a week or 2 [in this case HD Speed] and then began a steady topping with Beadmaker as a drying aid after every wash it worked seamlessly and that protection lasted over 6 months and I have no doubt it would’ve lasted a whole year without allowing contaminants to bond to the paint.

I’m talking baggie test passing smooth as glass paint! Real protection. BeadMaker can truly do it, but it must be used frequently. I’m still using it on my current daily driver. It’s so slick to wipedown the paint when there’s no bonded contaminants.

What would you recommend for the best process/product to protect paint from harsh desert conditions/uv rays. I have a black truck, parked outside in the Las Vegas sun. Gloss is great but im really trying to protect the clearcoat from ever reaching failure. Thx

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[Eldorado2k]

What would you recommend for the best process/product to protect paint from harsh desert conditions/uv rays. I have a black truck, parked outside in the Las Vegas sun. Gloss is great but im really trying to protect the clearcoat from ever reaching failure. Thx

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TBO the liquid sealant I personally use and what I consider to be the best liquid sealant ever created is a product that was discontinued about 5yrs. ago... I was able to predict it would be discontinued just before it happened and managed to pick up enough to last me the rest of my life.

It’s the same stuff you see beading on the passenger side of the roof in the experiment I posted earlier in this thread.



How was I able to predict it would soon be discontinued? Easy, it was too good to be true. And when you have that then you also have the risk of the manufacturer somehow being dumb enough to discontinue it and that’s exactly what they did... Same exact thing happened to the TW Endura Tire Coating and there still doesn’t exist a tire product that can match what it was pound for pound.

I’ve never found another liquid sealant that can match it all things considered.. But if I were to recommend something that Should work I guess things like Collonite come to mind? However I’m pretty sure that’s technically a durable carnuba wax and therefore wouldn’t pair best with my other recommendation to go with it, which is Beadmaker.

So because of that I guess I’d probably recommend something like Meguiars Ultimate Fast Finish as a base layer then topped with Beadmaker as a drying aid every single time the truck is washed [that includes quik detail wipedowns and waterless washes] Every 1-2 weeks with some Beadmaker and at least 4 times per year a dedicated base layer with the Meguiars Ultimate Fast Finish.

That process Shouldn’t need any special reseting or re starting from scratch which is something I always like to not have to constantly do.

That’s exactly how I treat my own car. I just make sure to lay down that dedicated layer of sealant every 3 months, no special prep needed, I certainly don’t have to polish my car for the foreseeable future unless I have somekind of burning desire to have fun [which we can all relate to]


P.S. Based on your own current description saying that the “gloss is great” tells me that you maintain it washed and clean at most times and that alone will carry it much futher than the same truck left in the hands of an owner doesn’t care or have the time to keep their truck anywhere near as clean as yours.

Keep that in mind and you’ll see you have almost nothing to actually worry about.

[WaxMaster1]

TBO the liquid sealant I personally use and what I consider to be the best liquid sealant ever created is a product that was discontinued about 5yrs. ago

I’ve never found another liquid sealant that can match it all things considered

You better text me that secret sealant!

[Mikem3574]

TBO the liquid sealant I personally use and what I consider to be the best liquid sealant ever created is a product that was discontinued about 5yrs. ago... I was able to predict it would be discontinued just before it happened and managed to pick up enough to last me the rest of my life.

It’s the same stuff you see beading on the passenger side of the roof in the experiment I posted earlier in this thread.



How was I able to predict it would soon be discontinued? Easy, it was too good to be true. And when you have that then you also have the risk of the manufacturer somehow being dumb enough to discontinue it and that’s exactly what they did... Same exact thing happened to the TW Endura Tire Coating and there still doesn’t exist a tire product that can match what it was pound for pound.

I’ve never found another liquid sealant that can match it all things considered.. But if I were to recommend something that Should work I guess things like Collonite come to mind? However I’m pretty sure that’s technically a durable carnuba wax and therefore wouldn’t pair best with my other recommendation to go with it, which is Beadmaker.

So because of that I guess I’d probably recommend something like Meguiars Ultimate Fast Finish as a base layer then topped with Beadmaker as a drying aid every single time the truck is washed [that includes quik detail wipedowns and waterless washes] Every 1-2 weeks with some Beadmaker and at least 4 times per year a dedicated base layer with the Meguiars Ultimate Fast Finish.

That process Shouldn’t need any special reseting or re starting from scratch which is something I always like to not have to constantly do.

That’s exactly how I treat my own car. I just make sure to lay down that dedicated layer of sealant every 3 months, no special prep needed, I certainly don’t have to polish my car for the foreseeable future unless I have somekind of burning desire to have fun [which we can all relate to]


P.S. Based on your own current description saying that the “gloss is great” tells me that you maintain it washed and clean at most times and that alone will carry it much futher than the same truck left in the hands of an owner doesn’t care or have the time to keep their truck anywhere near as clean as yours.

Keep that in mind and you’ll see you have almost nothing to actually worry about.

What is your process before laying down your base sealent or wax (every 3 months). I noticed you had said that you dont polish prior. Do you do anything particular prior, or just lay it down over the maintenance waxes? *****im still trying to figure out how to "quote" only portions of someones post. Not sure if its possible using the mobile tapatalk app i use.....

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[Belo]

I've use poorboys AIO, MK360 and HD speed for reference.

MK360 was the easiest to apply and the most durable. It wasn't as shiny as HD Speed. In my opinion the trade off is durability vs shine for the 2. You will get residual protection past 3 or 4 weeks, but like anything it's based on climate and use. I found good beading still 3 months later. However, I do think it's a good practice to hand wash and hit with some spray on sealant like mk 10 minute or even hydro blue.

[CleanIT]

Thanks for the replies. I'm using Hydro Blue Pro on top every other week per wash.