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Re: Is Anyone Else Tired of All the Ceramic Pile-Ons?
Originally Posted by Mike Phillips
From Idiocracy
Secretary of State: But Brawndo's got what plants crave.
It's got electrolytes.
Lol...literally laughed out loud. Great and underrated movie.
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Re: Is Anyone Else Tired of All the Ceramic Pile-Ons?
Originally Posted by FUNX650
Graphene is hydrophilic.
Wonder how much hyping of that characteristic it’s going to take to win over the ‘beading-crowd’?
Bob
Originally Posted by Mike Phillips
From the movie Idiocracy
Secretary of State: But Brawndo's got what plants crave.
It's got electrolytes.
Originally Posted by Coatingsarecrack
Lol...literally laughed out loud. Great and underrated movie.
Ha ha... yeah, funny movie because sadly, it portrays the direction our world is going.
I was just trying to inject some levity into this thread.
And for the record, I get what Bob is saying about the "beading crowd". I have a long history of being against water beading because it leads to what in my opinion one of the WORST paint defects to have to remove and that is WATER SPOTS.
BUT - chemistry has changed. To date, I have not see the Type II Etching CRATERS inflicted into paint when water beading dries on paint. PLUS, I keep my wife's car coated and I love how fast it washes, how fast it dries and how a good, strong rain shower gives the car a "Mother Natures Car Wash". And the paint looks glassy and the coating doesn't wear off.
Like most things in life, there's good and bad to everything. Even marketing.
I love this quote and somewhere on the forum, guess what... I HAVE AN ARTICLE ON THIS TOPIC.
Nothing happens until somebody sells something - Red Motely
Think about it.
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Re: Is Anyone Else Tired of All the Ceramic Pile-Ons?
There may be an overabundance of products claiming to be ceramic or having SiO2 in them, but if you filter out all the hype and look simply at the products themselves and their performance there are a lot of new products on the market with some innovative chemistry.
I'm a big fan of coatings and "lite" coatings like CanCoat. These products look great, are easy to apply, easy to maintain, and last 2x to 4x longer than any sealant I've applied. The ease of maintenance and longer durability has completely changed the way I care for my vehicles.
If I lived somewhere with a much milder climate and had a garage queen or a non-racetrack weekend car, I would be all of the carnaubas and other waxes. However, since I've only got daily drivers and live in the mid-west, I need something very different.
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Re: Is Anyone Else Tired of All the Ceramic Pile-Ons?
I think there's definitely too many products and it makes picking one hard. But I'm all about the ceramic stuff because they make caring for cars much easier. I love a clean car. I hate cleaning it. So the more it can clean itself and stay clean, the better. Ceramic delivered in that much more than sealants/waxes ever did.
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Re: Is Anyone Else Tired of All the Ceramic Pile-Ons?
Originally Posted by Bill D
Hmm. I can’t seem to find that one here or on the McKee’s site....
It is called one McKee’s 37 Krystal Diamond SiO2 Ceramic Wax and is on the Mckee's site.
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Re: Is Anyone Else Tired of All the Ceramic Pile-Ons?
Okay thanks. I did find it last night
Treat it like it's the only one in the world.
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Re: Is Anyone Else Tired of All the Ceramic Pile-Ons?
Never even bothered with ceramics for the reasons you mentioned, plus the ability to screw it up. I've never done a good polish and seal job and felt I was missing out. the toppers and all that stuff is just confusing and not worth it for me. I did by a ceramic wheel coating though.
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Re: Is Anyone Else Tired of All the Ceramic Pile-Ons?
Originally Posted by Kamakaz1961
I did the ceramic coatings and IMO there is a market for it. That being said, I went back to a great Carnuba Wax. My most recent wax is Pinnacle Black Label Reserve. I must say IMO nothing beats the wet look, depth and brilliance of a great carnuba wax. AGAIN, that IMO!!!! Additionally, I am a WAX SNOB so wax it is.
I have 3 favorite paste waxes: 1. Pinnacle Black Label Reserve Wax 2. Pinnacle Souveran Paste Wax 3. Brand not supported by AGO so will not name it.
As for liquid waxes: Anything Polish Angel.
The WAX SNOB has SPOKEN!....LOL
PA liquid waxes include SiO2, usually quite a bit of it. I love them and normal carnauba pastes as well.
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Re: Is Anyone Else Tired of All the Ceramic Pile-Ons?
Originally Posted by FUNX650
•Example:
•Remember Meguiar’s NXT 2.0?
-Because it wasn’t formulated during the
current onslaught of “Silica infused” hype,
Meguiar’s may have, inadvertently, over-
looked a primo hyping opportunity, IMO.
(But it’s said that hind-sight is 20/20)
-I’d almost bet the farm that it contained
almost as much, if not more, “Silica” than
does many of the current offerings on the
market today. And their Chemists even
threw in some Titanium—if that don’t take
the cake!
True, but NXT isn’t a good beader and only lasts two months at best (my experience anyways). These two factors would go against the ceramic performance features that are so popular nowadays.
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Re: Is Anyone Else Tired of All the Ceramic Pile-Ons?
Most of you must have heard or seen the new Griot's ceramic 3-in-1 (e.g. hydrophobic polymers, SiO2, carnauba) at SEMA. I just watched the video where Nick made the statement how this spray-on LSP is more robust then sealants.
Sam gives a high-level overview with 6 months (e.g. conservative) longevity. "You are going to be able to replace traditional sealant and wax with this formula".
Thoughts?
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