Question about PH Neutral Car Shampoos

[swanicyouth]

Don’t drink the Kool Aid. Really, those APC type shampoos may help speed up the full detail process on a neglected or trashed car. But any car with reasonable maintenance only needs a regular shampoo/car wash.

The bottom line is, you have to touch the car to get it clean with either type. People have been getting their normally maintained cars clean with regular soap for years.

There are more factors than go into getting paint clean besides the pH of the soap. If that wasn’t the case, we would all be washing our dishes with APC.

Despite what’s be insinuated, most of the people who make this stuff are not morons. Making car soap isn’t an evolving technology. People have been washing their cars with regular soap diluted in water for years and it’s worked fine.

[Mike@ShineStruck]

Using non PH balanced soaps will aid in tar ,bug removal and depending on side of the pH scale, it'll remove iron and other contamination that a clay would normally remove.

If you use a combination of acid, alkaline and solvent you can chemically strip an LSP .

You most likely won't need all 3 to do so, but you also don't know which is needed to strip said LSP. they all have different tolerances where one may be stripped by acid and safe against solvent and alkaline . another will be stripped by solvents but acid won't do anything

[FUNX650]

I don’t think everyone’s reason for buying
Hyper Wash is for 400:1 dilution economizing...

•IMO:
-That’s not exactly what I said.


Bob

[acuRAS82]

•IMO:
-That’s not exactly what I said.


Bob

Right, it’s your opinion, and you’re asking him if it’s worth jeopardizing what, in your opinion, is one of the main reasons of buying it. I’m pointing out that economizing isn’t everyone’s main reason for purchasing items.

[WristyManchego]

When it comes to washing, consider frequency of maintenance, degree of contamination and level of protection.

All three will have a bearing on what product and technique you use to wash a vehicle.

If you’ve not washed in a few weeks, it’s been raining over this time and you top protection every wash; go for a heavy pre-wash and shampoo.

Garage, wash every week and have ceramic coating; go pH neutral with a mild pre-wash.

Point being, it doesn’t hurt to have both heavy duty and pH neutral shampoo on hand to cater to multiple scenarios.

[fightnews]

Don’t drink the Kool Aid. Really, those APC type shampoos may help speed up the full detail process on a neglected or trashed car. But any car with reasonable maintenance only needs a regular shampoo/car wash.

The bottom line is, you have to touch the car to get it clean with either type. People have been getting their normally maintained cars clean with regular soap for years.

There are more factors than go into getting paint clean besides the pH of the soap. If that wasn’t the case, we would all be washing our dishes with APC.

Despite what’s be insinuated, most of the people who make this stuff are not morons. Making car soap isn’t an evolving technology. People have been washing their cars with regular soap diluted in water for years and it’s worked fine.

Explain hydrofoam and all the many similar soaps then?

Anyway I always use more then recommended but Im trying to cut back. If one were worried about the PH of any particular soap you could always just use it more diluted with water. Use 1/2 the recommended amount for example. Or if you want more lubricity add something like N-914.

I'm always making my own mixed concoctions.