BLACKFIRE Pro Ceramic Coating: Any long term evals out there?

[charlestek]

I was watching WaxMode's short video: YouTube and read Mike Phillips review and how to: Review & How-to: BLACKFIRE Pro Ceramic Coating by Mike Phillips for Blackfire Pro Ceramic Coating. I have been waiting for New England weather to work on my black 2017 Honda Accord Sport SE. I am a consumer, not detailer. I have a syringe of Optimum Gloss Coat sitting on my shelf.
But I recently ran into the BFPCC posts and videos, and maybe I should try this instead of Optimum Gloss Coat.
However, I have not read/seen any long term evals. It appears that this coating was ?? recently released???

[Rsurfer]

I was watching WaxMode's short video: YouTube and read Mike Phillips review and how to: Review & How-to: BLACKFIRE Pro Ceramic Coating by Mike Phillips for Blackfire Pro Ceramic Coating. I have been waiting for New England weather to work on my black 2017 Honda Accord Sport SE. I am a consumer, not detailer. I have a syringe of Optimum Gloss Coat sitting on my shelf
But I recently ran into the BFPCC posts and videos, and maybe I should try this instead of Optimum Gloss Coat.
However, I have not read/seen any long term evals. It appears that this coating was ?? recently released???

Don't let all the advertising BS sway you. Optimum, Blackfire, Car Pro, Ceramic Pro, Gyeon are all well known and respected brands. Nothing wrong with OGC, use it since you have it.

[charlestek]

Yeah, I know I should be careful discussing politics or ceramic coatings. Once upon a time, I remember something like someone doing a massive independent comparison test of ?waxes with a rectangular grid
of green tape on some kind of body panel. Maybe someone can grab a junked car and apply different brands of ceramic coating in a grid on the hood and roof and drive through say a desert sand storm or a horrific winter, and then post the results.

Or maybe I should ask which ceramic coating is the hardest to polish off, after say hmm, a "detailing accident"

[Mgavin1985]

Check YouTube a dude has done that

[charlestek]

Check YouTube a dude has done that

Mgavin,

Thanks. I will do a youtube search and see what is out there.

Also, apparently no one has "detailing accidents". Or maybe there is a thread on this site where people have posted these???

[FUNX650]

Junked Cars...driven?

If you’re willing to pull the permit(s)—not sure
of the local ordinances (don’t want to overstep
any boundaries of lawfulness)—I will take the
necessary steps to see if my busy schedule will
permit me the time to conduct your tests.

Please keep me apprised.


Bob

[charlestek]

Junked Cars...driven?

If you’re willing to pull the permit(s)—not sure
of the local ordinances (don’t want to overstep
any boundaries of lawfulness)—I will take the
necessary steps to see if my busy schedule will
permit me the time to conduct your tests.

Please keep me apprised.


Bob

Bob,

I worded that poorly. I was first thinking that a junked car's paint could be used as a testbed. Then I realized that it would be better if it could drive. I should have said "junker that runs", or maybe "my relative's car when they aren't looking".

[charlestek]

Check YouTube a dude has done that

Mgavin,

I just watched a 3 month after video on youtube of various coatings, but waxes also. But the guy insists on spraying the test hood vertically sitting on the ground with a pressure washer to test beading, instead of using normal pressure with say a soaker setting. Some of the areas on the lip of the hood are bent backwards by the normal contour of the hood and would affect things slightly. He also does not hand wash the area with a mitt after dispensing soap by pressure washer. With no mechanical agitation of the car wash by a hand mitt or other, I'm not sure if this would change the results.

In any case, CK Quartz UK looks a hair subjectively better than Gloss Coat, but nothing dramatic.
No Blackfire ceramic tested here.

[JustJesus]

Also, apparently no one has "detailing accidents". Or maybe there is a thread on this site where people have posted these???

Sure they do. I think Mike P has mentioned this in some posts. Having high spots, and removing them.

Also, I saw a video with Optimum (maybe rag co video?) purposely leaving a high spot, then removing it at the "end" of that application.

[prin]

Sure they do. I think Mike P has mentioned this in some posts. Having high spots, and removing them.

Also, I saw a video with Optimum (maybe rag co video?) purposely leaving a high spot, then removing it at the "end" of that application.

I have had such accidents. I think it was due to the heat and humidity. I was detailing a customers BMW 750li black in color. I was doing this at night since they wanted it done at their house. Well, under my lights, everythign looked perfect! I when there the next day and whoa!!! It was streaked to hell and back. I waited untill I opened my shop and I redone the car for them. I had to explain that the heat and humidity would not let the coating cure properly. They understood and I was able to buff off the coating and recoat. It was the blackfire. This is the only coating that I use for 1-3 year coating. I like the way that it flashes as well.