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Re: Blackfire pro ceramic coating
Ech20 can certainly be used as a rinseless wash as well as a QD and clay lube besides it's original intended purpose of a waterless wash. It does a very good job as a rinseless wash. It won't leave protection behind like Elixir or Merlin's Magic Elixir but that should not be a deal breaker.
From the CarPro US site
Waterless Wash, High Gloss Detail Spray, Rinse-less Wash, and Clay Lubricant
EcH2o is an entirely new waterless cleanser and gloss-enhancer built on 2 years of research and development by CarPro Chemicals! EcH2o was designed to work in harmony with ceramic coatings and even provides easy cleaning of non-coated or waxed surfaces! Based on a SiO2 hybrid framework and an eco-friendly organic lubricant solution, EcH2o safely cleans and glosses a variety of exterior vehicle surfaces with ease!
Paint and chrome take on an entirely new level of gloss and reflection with this incredible formula and better yet it is easy to use even in extreme heat and direct sun on painted surfaces! Our solution to providing a swirl free and eco friendly waterless experience is a blend of proprietary lifting agents combined with natural organic extracts and lubricants.
The secret to the safe cleansing abilities provided by EcH2o is a combination of its modified high gloss SiO2 component and its innate cleansing abilities, which easily removes dust and light dirt whilst leaving behind a wet, glass-like surface! The finish left by EcH2o mimics the incredible properties that have become synonymous with CarPro SiO2 sealants and CQuartz coatings throughout the years!
In conjunction with a quality microfiber towel, the lubricants aid in safely removing the larger particles from the surface while the remnants of the EcH2o solution become an active cleaner across the surface and begin to loosen any particulates that were left behind. Before the final step (noted in the product directions) the solution may dry to a fine haze indicating it is ready to wipe off any remaining product effortlessly!
Features:
High Gloss SiO2 Hybrid Detail Spray
Incredible waterless wash!
Also excels at rinse-less, & clay lubricant
Safely cleans without swirls when used as directed
Works great even in direct sun
Eco Friendly
Amazing on chrome
Excellent on rubber and plastic trim - Does not stain
Fast & Easy
Versatile, works well on many materials
Works great on both coated and un-coated vehicles
Dilutions:
1 Liter makes up to 4 Gallons of Waterless Spray (1:15)
1 Liter makes up to 6.5 Gallons of Quick Detailer (1:25)
1 Liter makes up to 10.5 Gallons of Clay Lubricant (1:40)
1 Liter makes up to 52 Gallons of Rinse-less Wash (1:200)
Example: At a 1:20 ratio using a 24oz bottle you would need 1.15 oz of Ech2o and the rest water or to be exact 22.85 oz of water.
Directions:
Quick Detailer:
Shake well and dilute 1:15 ~ 1:25
Spray, spread, and wipe off completely
Waterless Wash:
Shake well and dilute 1:10 ~ 1:15
Spray liberally across one entire panel
Lightly wipe with Crazy Pile towel flipping towel to fresh sides often
Spray once more across panel surface
Using a fresh Crazy Pile towel wipe surface removing remainder of dust and dirt
Move to next panel, repeat steps 2-5, and continue around vehicle
Final wipe entire vehicle with a fresh clean towel as needed
Clay Lubricant: 1:15 ~ 1:40
Rinse-less Wash:
Mix 3 gallons of water with 2-3 ounces of Ech2o in a bucket with Grit Guard
Fill another 5 gallon bucket with grit guard and ONLY clean water
Submerge Crazy Pile Microfiber Towel in the solution bucket
Fold Towel in half and drag slowly across surface no pressure across 1/4 of a panel
Flip Towel and do a couple other passes on the next 1/4 of panel
Flip Towel In side out and repeat using all 4 sides to complete one panel
Use a seperate clean soaked towel for final buffing wipe
Use a DRY summit 800 or suitable drying towel to dry the panel completely before moving on to next panel
Wash the dirty towels in your rinse bucket OR use a new towel submerged and repeat steps 3-8
Wash all towels in washing machine with Micro-Restore when complete
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Re: Blackfire pro ceramic coating
Originally Posted by Eldorado2k
So if Ech2o by itself is “overkill” as a QD/WW, and Elixir is basically Ech2o + Reload, does that mean you’d consider Elixir overkill as a QD/WW too? Would you use Elixir as a Rinseless?
Listen, I'm not sure if your being a clown or not here. The Elixr is said to be CarPro's "brew" of what people here have been doing with 2 of their existing products and probably some other items we don't know about.
I say its overkill as a QD because it does such a great job as a RW/WW, meaning it's almost too good to be used as a QD. For me and this is only me, if I need a QD the WW ratio does the same thing...agreed?
Elixr is NOT a concentrate like Ech2o is, are you serious with all this right now?
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Re: Blackfire pro ceramic coating
Maybe I should have said that I don’t use ECH2O alone as a QD. I started mixing ECH2O and Quartzmax for a QD before I even used it waterless or rinseless. Adding a few oz of your favorite SiO2 spray just makes it last for a few more days. My wash method is a hybrid version anyway. Suffice it to say ECH2O is good anyway you want to use it.
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Re: Blackfire pro ceramic coating
Originally Posted by rlmccarty2000
Maybe I should have said that I don’t use ECH2O alone as a QD. I started mixing ECH2O and Quartzmax for a QD before I even used it waterless or rinseless. Adding a few oz of your favorite SiO2 spray just makes it last for a few more days. My wash method is a hybrid version anyway. Suffice it to say ECH2O is good anyway you want to use it.
Ahhh, Quartmax
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Re: Blackfire pro ceramic coating
Originally Posted by Klasse Act
Listen, I'm not sure if your being a clown or not here.
Elixr is NOT a concentrate like Ech2o is, are you serious with all this right now?
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No I’m not being a clown. I was under the assumption that Elixir was a concentrate for waterless wash/QD.
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Re: Blackfire pro ceramic coating
Originally Posted by Eldorado2k
No I’m not being a clown. I was under the assumption that Elixir was a concentrate for waterless wash/QD.
CarPro could work on their names. I hate Essence and Essence Plus seeing that they are two distinctly different products. EliXir should have been named ECH2O Plus and then it would not have been confusing. I write ECH2O Plus on the bottles after I mix in some SiO2.
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Re: Blackfire pro ceramic coating
LOL, I do not get to see all they beading hype for all the ceramic products, but my vehicle never see's rain, maybe I will just accidentally dump some water on a panel and see.
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Thanks for all that info sir!, much appreciated
Originally Posted by The Guz
Ech20 can certainly be used as a rinseless wash as well as a QD and clay lube besides it's original intended purpose of a waterless wash. It does a very good job as a rinseless wash. It won't leave protection behind like Elixir or Merlin's Magic Elixir but that should not be a deal breaker.
From the CarPro US site
Waterless Wash, High Gloss Detail Spray, Rinse-less Wash, and Clay Lubricant
EcH2o is an entirely new waterless cleanser and gloss-enhancer built on 2 years of research and development by CarPro Chemicals! EcH2o was designed to work in harmony with ceramic coatings and even provides easy cleaning of non-coated or waxed surfaces! Based on a SiO2 hybrid framework and an eco-friendly organic lubricant solution, EcH2o safely cleans and glosses a variety of exterior vehicle surfaces with ease!
Paint and chrome take on an entirely new level of gloss and reflection with this incredible formula and better yet it is easy to use even in extreme heat and direct sun on painted surfaces! Our solution to providing a swirl free and eco friendly waterless experience is a blend of proprietary lifting agents combined with natural organic extracts and lubricants.
The secret to the safe cleansing abilities provided by EcH2o is a combination of its modified high gloss SiO2 component and its innate cleansing abilities, which easily removes dust and light dirt whilst leaving behind a wet, glass-like surface! The finish left by EcH2o mimics the incredible properties that have become synonymous with CarPro SiO2 sealants and CQuartz coatings throughout the years!
In conjunction with a quality microfiber towel, the lubricants aid in safely removing the larger particles from the surface while the remnants of the EcH2o solution become an active cleaner across the surface and begin to loosen any particulates that were left behind. Before the final step (noted in the product directions) the solution may dry to a fine haze indicating it is ready to wipe off any remaining product effortlessly!
Features:
High Gloss SiO2 Hybrid Detail Spray
Incredible waterless wash!
Also excels at rinse-less, & clay lubricant
Safely cleans without swirls when used as directed
Works great even in direct sun
Eco Friendly
Amazing on chrome
Excellent on rubber and plastic trim - Does not stain
Fast & Easy
Versatile, works well on many materials
Works great on both coated and un-coated vehicles
Dilutions:
1 Liter makes up to 4 Gallons of Waterless Spray (1:15)
1 Liter makes up to 6.5 Gallons of Quick Detailer (1:25)
1 Liter makes up to 10.5 Gallons of Clay Lubricant (1:40)
1 Liter makes up to 52 Gallons of Rinse-less Wash (1:200)
Example: At a 1:20 ratio using a 24oz bottle you would need 1.15 oz of Ech2o and the rest water or to be exact 22.85 oz of water.
Directions:
Quick Detailer:
Shake well and dilute 1:15 ~ 1:25
Spray, spread, and wipe off completely
Waterless Wash:
Shake well and dilute 1:10 ~ 1:15
Spray liberally across one entire panel
Lightly wipe with Crazy Pile towel flipping towel to fresh sides often
Spray once more across panel surface
Using a fresh Crazy Pile towel wipe surface removing remainder of dust and dirt
Move to next panel, repeat steps 2-5, and continue around vehicle
Final wipe entire vehicle with a fresh clean towel as needed
Clay Lubricant: 1:15 ~ 1:40
Rinse-less Wash:
Mix 3 gallons of water with 2-3 ounces of Ech2o in a bucket with Grit Guard
Fill another 5 gallon bucket with grit guard and ONLY clean water
Submerge Crazy Pile Microfiber Towel in the solution bucket
Fold Towel in half and drag slowly across surface no pressure across 1/4 of a panel
Flip Towel and do a couple other passes on the next 1/4 of panel
Flip Towel In side out and repeat using all 4 sides to complete one panel
Use a seperate clean soaked towel for final buffing wipe
Use a DRY summit 800 or suitable drying towel to dry the panel completely before moving on to next panel
Wash the dirty towels in your rinse bucket OR use a new towel submerged and repeat steps 3-8
Wash all towels in washing machine with Micro-Restore when complete
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Re: Blackfire pro ceramic coating
Also, does it specifically recommend to be Distilled water over tap water, or doesn't matter, for the dilution!!
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I'm a fan of IGL Enhancer for a coating safe detail spray. Use it on all of my coated vehicles and clients. Works in the sun. Works on coated and non coated vehicles.
IGL Ecoshine Enhancer
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