What is the longest lasting most filling, LSP out? GO!

[ski2]

IMO:
Both Meguiars NXT Generation Tech
Wax (Paste); and, Flitz Waxx Speed
Wax do a really decent job @ filling.

But if the goal is to hide minor paint
blemishes, (that is: when removing
them—via polishing steps—is not on
the agenda/a viable option), then I
prefer to apply a Glaze before apply-
ing an LSP.


Bob

In a previous post didn't you mention one of the FinishKare sealants that contain a durable filler???

[Calendyr]

It does fill but it has its limitations when it comes to filling. It is also not hydrophobic on its own. This is why the Essence Twins came about as Essence Plus will add the hydrophobic properties and a little more filling.

Durability seems to also be pretty poor. CarPro says a year but I have seen a test where out of about 20 products it was amongst the first ones to fail.

As a glaze I think it does a good job but I don't know if it's the best one. Major advantage is you can apply a coating on top of it.

[The Guz]

Durability seems to also be pretty poor. CarPro says a year but I have seen a test where out of about 20 products it was amongst the first ones to fail.

As a glaze I think it does a good job but I don't know if it's the best one. Major advantage is you can apply a coating on top of it.

I certainly hope you are referring to topping Essence as it’s not recommended to top Essence Plus with a coating.

[FUNX650]

IMO:
Both Meguiars NXT Generation Tech
Wax (Paste); and, Flitz Waxx Speed
Wax do a really decent job @ filling.

In a previous post didn't you mention
one of the FinishKare sealants that
contain a durable filler???

It was probably Finish Kare #2685
(a “hybrid” Wax/Sealant).

Durable filler? FK #2685 is renowned
for its layering ability; ie: filling/hiding
is accomplishable.

But if the goal is to hide minor paint
blemishes, (that is: when removing
them—via polishing steps—is not on
the agenda/a viable option), then I
prefer to apply a Glaze before apply-
ing an LSP.

I’ve also previously mentioned using
Menzerna’s Top Finish Machine Glaze
for its filling ability.


Bob

[Calendyr]

I certainly hope you are referring to topping Essence as it’s not recommended to top Essence Plus with a coating.

Yes Essemce, never tried essence plus, don't see the point of that product to be honest.

Essence gloss enhancer is supposed to be a 1 year product as a stand alone, and it barelly lasts 2 months. This kind of lying has to stop in the detailing product industry. Maybe a class action would make those manufacturers think twice about boasting unrealistic numbers all the time.

[estcstm3]

so the only definitive reply so far seems to be the prima banana gloss. If anybody else has applied a glaze (then topped with LSP selant or wax...not judging coatings). What was the real world durations the "filling" ability lasted and which product did you use. So far i feel i have gotten a bunch of "spit ball" (guesses) with nobody actually stating their experience with a product and how it worked for them.

[Dr Oldz]

Don't get too involved in glazing then waxing. Why do 2 steps when u will get the same or better results with Prima BG. It last about 2 months. It is one of the easiest products to use and will suit your bill perfect. Nothing that fills is going to have super good durability IME.

I just used it a few days ago on a friends car he was trading in. He wanted it to look as good as possible as cheap and easy as possible. Took me 1.5 hours to wash and apply BG and he was thrilled with the results. Hope this helps!

[Calendyr]

so the only definitive reply so far seems to be the prima banana gloss. If anybody else has applied a glaze (then topped with LSP selant or wax...not judging coatings). What was the real world durations the "filling" ability lasted and which product did you use. So far i feel i have gotten a bunch of "spit ball" (guesses) with nobody actually stating their experience with a product and how it worked for them.

The thing is that most detailers don't use glazes. Glazes are a good product for enthousiasts who go to car shows. You can take bad paint and make it look decent for a short while. Detailers usually try to fix the problem by removing the defects.

Also, even if someone is using glazes, unless you use two at the same time and do a durability or filing ability comparisson, it's very hard to compare them based on memory.

Try to find a comparative test on youtube, it might answer your question. I am pretty sure that the channel Forensic detailing did an episode on glazes. I kinda remember it but I had not interest in it so I did not really learn anything from it other than a confirmation that those products don't last. But in your case, you might find a lot of good details about each individual product tested.

[MrOneEyedBoh]

Years ago I used to use Black Hole and collinite 845. That combo looked good and seemed to last