How do you tell if wax is gone ?

[luckydawg]

Mike

What is MOL ?

[ChrisT]

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[luckydawg]

Thanks ChrisT

[Mike Phillips]

Let me see if I can find it for you using the search function. ��

Let me know how you do....


I just typed the below into Google,

oil change analogy Car Wax mike Phillips


And here's the top hit...

Is there a benefit to machine applying a wax or sealant versus applying by hand?


In the first post, scroll down till you find red text...

Kind of like an oil change.


We all change the oil in our car's motor BEFORE the oils is completely spent and no longer lubrication so we don't blow up our engine.

In the same analogy, we should re-wax our cars BEFORE all the last coat of wax has completely worn off and our paint suffers attack and deterioration.


A re-paint is incredibly expensive. Regularly applying a coat of wax, even an expensive wax compared to a re-paint is incredibly cheap.

Couldn't find anything on MOL using a few key words and the advanced search feature on Google. But I know I've typed about the oil change analogy a few times in my life.


It's all good...

[ChrisT]

I used those search terms here and this was the top result-

How do you tell if wax is gone ?

[Eldorado2k]

just to be clear - there's no such thing as a dumb question.

I agree. Plus it allows new members a chance to get their feet wet and join in on the posting + how can we deny a new forum member who’s obviously a car guy the chance to express him/herself and ask questions or simply add to the discussion.

The following post by glfnaz explains it perfectly. New methods, new tips & tricks come along all the time..

I think it was a fair question for one reason: often times guys post new responses, based upon experience, that I never had heard of before. I learn new solutions here all the time from folks that 'think out of the box'.

[DBAILEY]

Just to throw some gasoline on the fire with this debate consider this. It been repeated over and over that that it is the surfactants in the strong soaps that is masking the beading and that the sealant is still there, just need the surfactants removed.

Well I have learned through trial and error that Carpro Reset has the ability to kill your wax/sealant LSP's. I like Reset and using it on uncoated cars. I mix it at half dilution to prevent it from killing the LSP. Given that Reset does not use surfactants and is supposed to leave nothing behind, if I washed the car at double the dilution rate and it appears that it killed the LSP. Are all you nay-sayers still going to tell me that I can't strip with a strong wash and it is still there being masked by the surfactants?

Sorry, it just irritates me when people try to make the process of trying to strip off a LSP using a strong wash sound like it is a waste of effort. At the very least I am thoroughly degreasing the car exterior that a regular shampoo wash is not capable of.

[FUNX650]

Just to throw some gasoline on the fire
with this debate consider this.

It been repeated over and over that that
it is the surfactants in the strong soaps
that is masking the beading and that the
sealant is still there, just need the
surfactants removed.

Well I have learned through trial and error
that Carpro Reset has the ability to kill your
wax/sealant LSP's. I like Reset and using it
on uncoated cars. I mix it at half dilution to
prevent it from killing the LSP.

Given that Reset does not use surfactants

and is supposed to leave nothing behind,
if I washed the car at double the dilution
rate and it appears that it killed the LSP.

Are all you nay-sayers still going to tell
me that I can't strip with a strong wash
and it is still there being masked by the
surfactants?

Sorry, it just irritates me when people try
to make the process of trying to strip off
a LSP using a strong wash sound like it is
a waste of effort. At the very least I am
thoroughly degreasing the car exterior that
a regular shampoo wash is not capable of.

•If you are saying that Reset, which CarPro
states: ‘utilizes “Intelligent pH Surfactants”’—
i.e. surfactants that feature the strength of an
alkaline cleaner, while remaining pH-neutral
in solution—are not actually bona fide surfactants...

-then I have to disagree.


Bob

[crovello]

Btw, I Never bother with so called toppers because I know for a fact that all they do is degrade and remove the superior base layer of lsp I initially layed down.

P.s. WGU Rinseless Wash doesn’t qualify as a topper. I use it and it works fine. [meaning it won’t alter lsp]


Just my 2 cents...[/QUOTE]

I always use a quick spray wax or detailing spray after I wash my car. Are you telling me this is removing the nice layer of wax I put on my car the previous wash?
In the summer time when I am using my car more often, I apply a new layer of wax every month or so. Is this too much?
So between wax applications, my car may get washed and sprayed with a "topper" four or five times. I hate to think I am removing wax every time I do this.

[WillSports3]

Here's the thing, a lot of things will absolutely kill a natural carnauba wax. However, when it comes to synthetic polymer/acrylic based sealants, nothing short of a polisher or a paint cleanser will get rid of it.
It's science, natural waxes leave a layer of wax in carrier oil on the paint, it's why natural wax attracts dust more than synthetic or coatings. Something that will remove oil or wax will remove the wax as well. But if it's polymer, you're gonna have to use wheel acid basically if you want to get rid of it without polishing and that is highly not recommended.