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07-02-2020, 09:11 PM
#501
Super Member
Re: Sealant comparison
Originally Posted by Cruzscarwash
Out of all these have you seen anything bead or repel water better then PNS?? I'm not seeing anything do better especially if you topped with BSD to prolong it.
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I haven't tracked beading, unfortunately. Perhaps I could do so over the summer. May be possible to check beading every other day with ~10 or so per day on the Rover hood. Will need to see if I have the time to do this.
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07-03-2020, 02:13 PM
#502
Super Member
Re: Sealant comparison
My go-to for a drying aid on the Boxster is a Reload + Ech20 mixture. Last weekend I applied it to the Boxster minus the side where I had other sealants applied. I figured I may as well test this as well. I removed on vertical section on the passenger door so I could see when it's not performing relative to an area with no sealant. I applied DG Squeaky Clean between the blue tape with an MF applicator pad, then washed twice with Reset.
Rover (driver and passenger side)
- CanCoat - clearing in ~10 seconds (or less)
- DG coating - 10 seconds
- Collinite 845 - about 12 seconds
- Duragloss 104 - about 12 seconds
- Red Mist - 1 second
- MS #6 - 1 second
Seems I called MS #5 and DG coating done too early. They both seems to still be working on both sides of the Rover. I'll have to retest over winter again. MS #5 seems to have some potential to be a very long lasting sealant. As a wipe-on-walk-away it has good potential.
Sentra (driver and passenger side)
- Aquawax - 10 seconds
- Sonax High - 10 seconds
- Bead Maker - 5 seconds
- CarPro EliXir (QD) - 1 second
- Scholl Concepts Barracuda - 3 seconds
- BF synthetic spray wax - 3 seconds
- DG 931 as a QD - 1 second
Boxster (driver and passenger side)
- Hydro2 - 1 second
- Meguiar's - 1 second
- McKee's - 3 seconds
- Sonax Spray and Seal - 1 second
- Reload + Ech20 - 2 second
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07-08-2020, 11:42 PM
#503
Super Member
Re: Sealant comparison
Checked the Rover and Sentra today. Boxster is at work with the wife until tomorrow or Friday. Both cars were washed with Carpro Reset before checking sheeting times. I sprayed with a pressure washer, washed with a BRS, and rinsed with a pressure washer.
Summary: everything that was working last time is still working well.
Rover (driver and passenger side)
- CanCoat - clearing in ~8 seconds (or less)
- DG coating - 8 seconds
- Collinite 845 - about 10 seconds
- Duragloss 104 - about 10 seconds
- Red Mist - 3 seconds
- MS #6 - 3 seconds
Sentra (driver and passenger side)
- Aquawax - 8 seconds
- Sonax High - 9 seconds
- Bead Maker - 8 seconds
- CarPro EliXir (QD) - 2 seconds
- Scholl Concepts Barracuda - 3 seconds
- BF synthetic spray wax - 3 seconds
- DG 931 as a QD - 2 seconds
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07-09-2020, 10:00 PM
#504
Super Member
Re: Sealant comparison
Got a chance to test sealants on the Boxster today. Pressure washed, washed with N-914 using Everest 800 MF towels, and rinsed with the pressure washer before testing.
Boxster (driver and passenger side)- Hydro2 - 2 seconds
- Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic - 1 second
- McKee's Hydro Blue - 2 seconds
- Sonax Spray and Seal - 1 second
- Reload + Ech20 - 3 seconds
These are all doing well and all very close. If I recall correctly the previous spray-on-spray-off products I tested went from working well to not working quickly.
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07-09-2020, 10:30 PM
#505
Super Member
Re: Sealant comparison
I've been thinking about what to test next. Considering summer here is short and the Sentra is going to college with my kid in Sept, I have limited time to apply product.
Here's what I'm thinking for the rest of the year:
- Retest products that didn't last long to be sure
- Retest products that have high variability between
- Retest products that were only tested on horizontal surfaces (roof, hood, trunk)
- Retest the longest lasting products over winter
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07-14-2020, 08:11 PM
#506
Super Member
Re: Sealant comparison
Checked the Rover a couple of days ago and the Boxster and Sentra today. Rover and Sentra were washed with Reset and a BRS. Boxster was washed with N-914 and my favorite rinseless towels (Everest).
Rover (video)
- CanCoat - clearing in ~8 seconds (or less)
- MS #6 - 3 seconds
- Red Mist - 2 seconds
- DG coating - 8 seconds
- Collinite 845 - about 10 seconds
- Duragloss 104 - about 6 seconds
Sentra (video)
- Aquawax - 8 seconds
- Sonax High - 6 seconds
- Bead Maker - 8 seconds
- CarPro EliXir (QD) - 2 seconds
- Scholl Concepts Barracuda - 3 seconds
- BF synthetic spray wax - 3 seconds
- DG 931 as a QD - 2 seconds
Boxster (video)
- Hydro2 - 2 seconds
- Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic - 1 second
- McKee's Hydro Blue - 2 seconds
- Sonax Spray and Seal - 1 second
- Reload + Ech20 - 3 seconds
The Boxster products are all working well. I believe Sonax Spray and Seal is shedding water the fastest.
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07-19-2020, 09:02 PM
#507
Super Member
Re: Sealant comparison
Updates below. No big changes. Collinite 845 is slowing down. Most others are working well.
I didn't follow my plan above and added two new products to the Rover: DP Spray Sealant and Wowo's Show Stopper. I polished that panel with Nanoskin Compolish (a fine polish) with an LC white pad followed by DG Squeaky Clean with an LC black pad. Then washed with CarPro Reset just to be safe.
I noticed that the lower section of the door with DG 104 + 601 (polish bonding agent) is working just as well as the section with 601 only. It seems that DG 601 gives less longevity with all the other products I tested it with. So far not with DG 104. Thought that was noteworthy.
Rover (video - I forgot to show MS #6 and Red Mist in the video - they're both clearing very quickly)
- CanCoat - clearing in about 8 seconds
- MS #6 - 3 seconds
- Red Mist - 2 seconds
- DG coating - 6 seconds
- Collinite 845 - about 12 seconds - this seems to be slowing down
- Duragloss 104 - about 10 seconds
Sentra (video)
- Aquawax - 7 seconds
- Sonax High - 6 seconds
- Bead Maker - 8 seconds
- CarPro EliXir (QD) - 1 seconds
- Scholl Concepts Barracuda - 2 seconds
- BF synthetic spray wax - 2 seconds
- DG 931 as a QD - 1 seconds
Boxster (video)
- Hydro2 - 3 seconds
- Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic - 2 seconds
- McKee's Hydro Blue - 2 seconds
- Sonax Spray and Seal - 1 second
- Reload + Ech20 - 2 seconds
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07-25-2020, 09:52 PM
#508
Super Member
Re: Sealant comparison
Washed the Rover and Sentra with CarPro Reset and a Big Red Sponge. Washed the Boxster with N-914 as rinseless ratio using Everest MF towels.
Collinite 845, AquaWax, and Sonax High Speed wax are done. Duragloss 104 is slowing down. Spreadhsheet is updated.
Rover (video)
- CanCoat - clearing in ~8 seconds
- MS #6 - 3 seconds
- Red Mist - 1 second
- DG coating - ~9 seconds
- Collinite 845 - took about 20 seconds - calling it done
- Duragloss 104 - ~11 seconds
- Showstopper - 3 seconds
- DP Spray Sealant - 1 second
Sentra (video)
- Aquawax - took ~16 seconds to clear - calling it done
- Sonax High - took ~14 seconds, calling it done as well
- Bead Maker - 6 seconds
- CarPro EliXir (QD) - 2 seconds
- Scholl Concepts Barracuda - 2 seconds
- BF synthetic spray wax - 3 seconds
- DG 931 as a QD - 2 seconds
Boxster (video)
- Hydro2 - 1 second
- Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic - 1 second
- McKee's Hydro Blue - 1 second
- Sonax Spray and Seal - 1 second
- Reload + Ech20 - 3 seconds
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07-26-2020, 02:46 PM
#509
Super Member
Re: Sealant comparison
Originally Posted by Cruzscarwash
Out of all these have you seen anything bead or repel water better then PNS?? I'm not seeing anything do better especially if you topped with BSD to prolong it.
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Edit: I think the answer is MS #5. It did well for me and was very hydrophobic for months, if I recall. Did you ever try Dodo Future Armour?
Hi Cruz, just realized I had not replied to this. PNS is quite good. No question BSD over PNS is a great combo. I need to test PNS again on a vertical panel. I'll can likely get new products applied next weekend. Some are failing which will free up some room for me to add others.
The spray on, hose off products seem to repel water very well, but they don't last nearly as long as PNS in my testing. I have 4 of the SOHO going right now and water doesn't stay on them. The 3 new (to me) products on the passenger side of the Sentra are also repelling water very quickly, but they were applied less than a month ago, so I don't know how long they will last (EliXr, Barracuda, and BF Synthetic Wax). Red Mist which is currently on the Rover is also repelling water very well. It's also only about a month old so we'll have to see.
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08-01-2020, 04:42 PM
#510
Super Member
Re: Sealant comparison
Washed the Rover and Sentra with CarPro Reset and a Big Red Sponge. Washed the Boxster with N-914 as rinseless ratio using Everest MF towels.
Rover (video)
- CanCoat - clearing in ~8 seconds
- MS #6 - 3 seconds
- Red Mist - 1 second
- DG coating - ~9 seconds
- Duragloss 104 - ~11 seconds
- Showstopper - 3 seconds
- DP Spray Sealant - 2 seconds
Sentra (video)
- Bead Maker - 5 seconds
- CarPro EliXir (QD) - 2 seconds
- Scholl Concepts Barracuda - 2 seconds
- BF synthetic spray wax - 4 seconds
- DG 931 as a QD - 2 seconds
Boxster (video)
- Hydro2 - 2 seconds
- Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic - 3 seconds
- McKee's Hydro Blue - 2 seconds
- Sonax Spray and Seal - 1 second
- Reload + Ech20 - 2 seconds
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