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    Re: Sealant comparison

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    I believe 111 is just a sealant and not a cleaner like 105. Cruz, can you clarify if we're wrong?

    Matt, thanks and me too. I start doing this because of all the wild claims I was seeing on coatings and sealants with no evidence for anything.
    I had thought it was a cleaner as well but the more I look into it the less it's pointing in that direction so I'm not sure to be honest.

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    I had thought it was a cleaner as well but the more I look into it the less it's pointing in that direction so I'm not sure to be honest.

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    DG 101 and 105 have some cleaning ability. DG 111 is a pure sealant with no cleaning ability.

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    Re: Sealant comparison

    As usual I washed with McKee's N-914 rinseless concentration.

    Flooding it with the hose.


    DG 111, Track Claw, and Sonax PNS still working. Sonax is a little behind the other two. FK 1000 and Collinite 845 are working, but are so slowly I need to call them done. I reserve the right to say they're working if they bounce back next time, but they are very close to being indistinguishable from the rest of the hood. If I had to pick I'd say FK 1000 is doing a little better, but they're both dramatically slower than the 3 that are still working.




    I could not get a good picture of Sonax PNS. It's working as well it was during the last test. It's clearly on the way out, but hanging on. Honorable mention for DG 105. While very slow is still doing a little work. It's performing about as well as FK 1000 and 845 are right now. The point is, it's still distinguishable on the hood while everything else is not.


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    Re: Sealant comparison

    Dg111 how well does it shed dirt compared to fk1000p if you can even tell?

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    Sorry to say that I can't tell much difference in dirt shedding between any of the sealants. Maybe due to me testing in the rainy season? I've been waiting to see any difference in dirt appearance on either hood to grab a picture and I haven't once seen anything significant.
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    Re: Sealant comparison

    Cost info for some of these sealants below. Show as cost per panel and cost per car per year based on the duration testing data. I multiplied the panel cost by 10 to estimate the cost of covering an entire car. I applied these to two doors of my Rover, weighting the product before and after. I weighted the applicator before and after as well when used.



    You may want to consider application effort in addition to price. For example, FK 1000 is much lower cost than Dodo Future Armour, but Future Armour is much easier to apply and may be a better option.

    Please let me know if this doesn't make sense and I'll adjust or try to explain better.

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    Re: Sealant comparison

    Quote Originally Posted by RippyD View Post
    Cost info for some of these sealants below. Show as cost per panel and cost per car per year based on the duration testing data. I multiplied the panel cost by 10 to estimate the cost of covering an entire car. I applied these to two doors of my Rover, weighting the product before and after. I weighted the applicator before and after as well when used.



    You may want to factor on application effort when considering price. For example, FK 1000 is much lower cost than Dodo Future Armour, but Future Armour is much easier to apply and may be a better option.

    Please let me know if this doesn't make sense and I'll adjust or try to explain better.
    Is that dollars or cents on the right??

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    Re: Sealant comparison

    Both sides are dollars. I updated the chart to show this on the axis labels. As an example, Dodo Future Armour is ~$0.05 per panel, or about $2.00 per car per year. ($0.05 per panel x 10 panels x 4x per year = ~$2 per year for the whole car. 4x per year because it lasts about 3 months). I can get a table of the data posted as well if people want to see it. The graph is hard to read at the lower end b/c the numbers are so small.

    Changed the vertical axis (pl) so they align better - updated above.

    I had to use 2.5x the amount of FK 1000 needed to be able to measure it. I have low confidence in that number since I was likely seeing scale variance. Point is, FK 1000 takes very little product. I think you could keep your car sealed with FK 1000 for well under $1 per year. Crazy value on that product.
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    So the recent thread on best bang for your buck has me curious about how fk1000p wood stack up against collinite 476 double coat as far as long jevity and price per panel when doing the application as far as how you did your graph. I know you didn't use 476 so it's all speculation. Think I get 1000p and 476 and do some comparing on my Chevy. Think KAIO, KSG, 476, 845, 1000p.

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    Re: Sealant comparison

    Do you have 915 to include also?

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