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Mckees paint coating vs pinnacle black label paint coating?
Mckees paint coating vs pinnacle black label paint coating?
Both are formulated with nano glass ceramic particles. Both made by the same people. The pinnacle is more expensive but the mckees is a newer formula.
Do you think there is any difference here? The pinnacle claims to be designed to be topped with your favorite carnuba. That's perfect for me but I don't see there being much difference between the 2?
What do you guys think. The same or different?
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Re: Mckees paint coating vs pinnacle black label paint coating?
Different.
Mckees is its own company now. Pinnacle is part of PBMG. Could they be bottled and made at the same place could be hard to say. Doubt you will get the real answer
the mckees new one has si02 in it but many have that, doesn't make them the same. Not like Cquartz ti02 and UK are the same
I'm imagining the new mckees to be closer to Gyeon can coat as far as comparisons go on application and make up.
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Re: Mckees paint coating vs pinnacle black label paint coating?
Originally Posted by MattPersman
Different.
Mckees is its own company now. Pinnacle is part of PBMG. Could they be bottled and made at the same place could be hard to say. Doubt you will get the real answer
the mckees new one has si02 in it but many have that, doesn't make them the same. Not like Cquartz ti02 and UK are the same
I'm imagining the new mckees to be closer to Gyeon can coat as far as comparisons go on application and make up.
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Is the sio2 the same as nano glass? That's what they both advertise
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Re: Mckees paint coating vs pinnacle black label paint coating?
Originally Posted by fightnews
Both are formulated with nano glass ceramic particles. Both made by the same people. The pinnacle is more expensive but the mckees is a newer formula.
Do you think there is any difference here? The pinnacle claims to be designed to be topped with your favorite carnuba. That's perfect for me but I don't see there being much difference between the 2?
What do you guys think. The same or different?
Bob McKee is the former owner of Pinnacle Black Label, Pinnacle Natural Brilliance, BLACKFIRE Car Care, Wolfgang Car Care, and Marine 31. When Bob sold Autogeek to the Hulman-George family last fall, he sold EVERYTHING except McKee's 37, McKee's RV and the real estate. Autogeek is a distributor of McKee's 37 / McKee's RV, not the manufacturer.
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Re: Mckees paint coating vs pinnacle black label paint coating?
Originally Posted by Nick@McKees37
Bob McKee is the former owner of Pinnacle Black Label, Pinnacle Natural Brilliance, BLACKFIRE Car Care, Wolfgang Car Care, and Marine 31. When Bob sold Autogeek to the Hulman-George family last fall, he sold EVERYTHING except McKee's 37, McKee's RV and the real estate. Autogeek is a distributor of McKee's 37 / McKee's RV, not the manufacturer.
I understand that and I thought PBL and the mckees coating were both designed by him and his team? Do you know about the coating from PBL and the claim of being designed to be topped by wax?
Does the mckees coating share that feature?
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Re: Mckees paint coating vs pinnacle black label paint coating?
Originally Posted by Nick@McKees37
Bob McKee is the former owner of Pinnacle Black Label, Pinnacle Natural Brilliance, BLACKFIRE Car Care, Wolfgang Car Care, and Marine 31. When Bob sold Autogeek to the Hulman-George family last fall, he sold EVERYTHING except McKee's 37, McKee's RV and the real estate. Autogeek is a distributor of McKee's 37 / McKee's RV, not the manufacturer.
Not to get off topic, but is Sonax now part of the PBMG? I noticed on the site on the pulldown menu that PBMG brands are usually at the top and Mckees has been moved to the bottom and Sonax is at the top now with PBMG brands. There seems to be much more ads for Sonax on Autogeek. Not that its a bad thing though.
As far as topping a coating. I plan on using Black Label Paint Coating and then 24 hours later topping it with Black Label Paint Sealant. Sounds like a good combo for Ohio's winter for my daily driver.
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Re: Mckees paint coating vs pinnacle black label paint coating?
Originally Posted by inzer585
Not to get off topic, but is Sonax now part of the PBMG? I noticed on the site on the pulldown menu that PBMG brands are usually at the top and Mckees has been moved to the bottom and Sonax is at the top now with PBMG brands. There seems to be much more ads for Sonax on Autogeek. Not that its a bad thing though.
The company that bought PBMG is the US distributer for Sonax.
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Mckees paint coating vs pinnacle black label paint coating?
Perhaps. It doesn't mean they are the same though. Could have 5% could have 65% doubt you will get a published number
You won't see a lot of actual data on these products. Just vague information and hyped reviews.
Doesn't mean they don't perform. Just no technical data useful to compare.
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Re: Mckees paint coating vs pinnacle black label paint coating?
Originally Posted by MattPersman
Perhaps. It doesn't mean they are the same though. Could have 5% could have 65% doubt you will get a published number
You won't see a lot of actual data on these products. Just vague information and hyped reviews.
Doesn't mean they don't perform. Just no technical data useful to compare.
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I know that alone doesn't mean they are the same but you take that plus the fact they they were designed and developed by the same people. Plus the fact that they have similar descriptions and ingredients. Then it's not so much of a stretch to think they are the same or very similar? I think it's a pretty legitimate question that needs clarification at the least.
Is there something in the pinnacle coating that makes it more compatible with a top coat of wax? If so does the mckees coating also have that feature. These are legitimate questions given the three facts I listed.
I would rather not spend the extra money on the pinnacle black label coating if the mckees coating has the same features, cost half the money and is easier to apply.
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Re: Mckees paint coating vs pinnacle black label paint coating?
They are both ceramic coatings. No need to over complicate things. One has a claim of 3 years and the other of 2 years.
Again any coating can be topped with any wax as others mentioned in your other thread. The self cleaning effect of the coating will not let the wax stick around for that long.
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