AIO or 1 step vs Hard Paint

[TMQ]

What do you guys do if your AIO falls short of cutting on hard paint?

I find myself having to resort to compounding to achieve desired finish on large cars. I end up doing 3 steps at the end!

I only want to go around a car one time---

I have: Speed, McKee's 360, Blackfire One Step, Sonax paint cleaner probably couple others.
I have all the full Rupes system if all fails.

Thinking I'll knock it out one time only to find Aio's fails me on hard paint crabs me out big time!

Tom

What I do not have is microfiber pads and D151.
Thinking I probably should have at least a medium cut AIO like D151 to get me out of trouble????

[Desertnate]

I'm assuming you tried different pad combinations with the AIO and you're still not getting the desired results?

I own a black VW which is some of the hardest paint around, from what I understand. I find using a light compound on a polishing pad or a polish on a compounding pad seemed to work great for a one-step process that finished out LSP ready. My weapons of choice used to be the Blackfire SRC duo, but they are no longer available. From what I've been able to tell the polish was similar to Menz 3500 or Wolfgang Finishing Glaze, and the compound was only a bit more aggressive than Wolfgang Swirl Remover or Menz 2500.

If the AIO isn't cutting it, I think the only way forward would be a two-step, polish/wax job.

[rangerbay]

Have you tried Griots Boss fast cutting compound? Cuts like crazy, and finishes out quite nicely. Use a heavy cut pad, and finish with a polishing pad. Still one step, but first passes with heavy pad, last passes with polishing pad. I guess you'd call that a one step, 2 pad method!

Bill

[ChrisT]

You don’t do a test panel/area first?

[Eldorado2k]

Try Megs D166, preferably w/Megs Burgundy foam cutting discs. Not only will it have more cutting power than what you've tried so far, but those pads work neat [meaning they don’t splatter] and finish down lsp ready in most cases + you'll still be laying down protection in 1 step. [the longer you allow it to haze the better the protection]

[JCDetails]

Depends if we’re talking true AIO or a one step. Obviously two very different things.

My suggestion, jescar compound. Seriously. Use with an orange LC thinpro. Finishes incredibly well, almost a true one step.

Only other one step I can think of for this problem would be Rupes UHS.


If you need a true AIO, maybe try speed or D166 on a mf pad and see where that gets you.

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[WaxMaster1]

a great "one step" would be Sonax 04 -06 EX. Great correction and finishes out great. Then LSP.

[WillSports3]

I would add an agreement to WaxMaster. Sonax 04-06 or 05-05 are great one step levelling fluids.

[dlc95]

One step polish procedure, I have come to love Menzerna PF2500 on Tangerine Lake Country Hydrotech pads, and Rupes Quarz on either green or yellow foam pads, or their UHS system.

With cleaner waxes, I don't go into the situation promising a lot of correction. I market that package to people who just want "improved" paint that feels slick, and has some sort of wax protection.

I keep going back to the white Lake Country flat or CCS polishing pads with Meguiar's M66, or Duragloss 501. They both do a fantastic job of cleaning up the paint, giving great gloss, and a nice, slick finish. The DG501 is the more resilient of the two. I also use these with black Buff and Shine Grip Pads, which don't cut as well as the polishing foam.

I've done some limited testing with the Crimson Hydrotech, and the red URO-Cell Matt gave me. These feel on par with the white pads in terms of functionality.

[mwoywod]

So you don't have to buy another product try using the Blackfire One-step with megs or LC microfiber cutting pads. It's one of the best 1-step products I've used. It's impressive how well it works great on both hard and soft paints and even when using microfiber pads, very little product is needed.

D166 will leave some haze on even the hardest paints when paired with microfiber but it cuts more than any other AIO on the market. You might give it a shot if you decide to buy another product. I used it with a microfiber pad on the hood of my truck and I got a little over a month of durability with it which was disappointing since it's supposed to be extremely durable. Didn't like using it at all with foam but I still need to take Eldo's advice and use it with the meg's burgundy pads.