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    What can I top HD Speed with?

    Was all set to do a two step correction yesterday on my pearl white 2017 Subaru Forester XT. Unfortunately my wife was out and my 3 year old daughter had enough playing outside by the time I washed, clayed and iron-x'd so I needed to do something quick. Did one pass with HD Speed so I was protected. Car actually looks great...white tends to show minimal defects anyway. I find that the sealant in HD Speed doesn't last that long. What, if anything can I top it with? I have PNS which I think is a no-no over anything, and I also have Colinite 845, Prima Epic and Prima Banana Gloss. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.


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    Re: What can I top HD Speed with?

    HD POXY would be ideal, but the others you have(with the exception of PNS) would be fine.
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    Re: What can I top HD Speed with?

    I think the main reason why the protection aspect of HD speed is short lived is because most people don't follow the directions. Totally not saying this is your case but it does say to move the machine very very slow.

    I find most detailers blast through a car using speed well because time is money. But is the product really getting a good chance to lay down a sealant after the abrasives have desolved?

    The thought process is well a two step takes too much time so let me rush through a car using speed and go as fast as possible. It's that last part the protection part that suffers imo.

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    Re: What can I top HD Speed with?

    Quote Originally Posted by idriveblackcars View Post
    I think the main reason why the protection aspect of HD speed is short lived is because most people don't follow the directions. Totally not saying this is your case but it does say to move the machine very very slow.

    I find most detailers blast through a car using speed well because time is money. But is the product really getting a good chance to lay down a sealant after the abrasives have desolved?

    The thought process is well a two step takes too much time so let me rushthrough a car using speed and go as fast as possible. It's that last part the protection part that suffers imo.
    I respectfully disagree. Speed uses non diminishing abrasives, so they never really dissolve or break down. Even if they did break down, the protection in SPEED doesn't suddenly appear after that has happened. It's being laid down the second you start polishing. Do you move the polisher very slowly when applying a pure wax? Nope. Same idea. You move the polisher slowly for removing defects. One could argue the protection of SPEED could be longer if it's left to sit a bit before wiping off.
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    Re: What can I top HD Speed with?

    Quote Originally Posted by WRAPT C5Z06 View Post
    I respectfully disagree. Speed uses non diminishing abrasives, so they never really dissolve or break down. Even if they did break down, the protection in SPEED doesn't suddenly appear after that has happened. It's being laid down the second you start polishing. Do you move the polisher very slowly when applying a pure wax? Nope. Same idea. You move the polisher slowly for removing defects. One could argue the protection of SPEED could be longer if it's left to sit a bit before wiping off.
    I'm just going by the directions on the bottle. I'm no pro but some of you guys are using it wrong imo. Just ssyin

    Edit: and technically your comparison isn't apples to apples.

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    Re: What can I top HD Speed with?

    I typically let Speed dwell on the car while I finish polishing the rest of it. I start with slow passes and heavier pressure (Rupes speed 3-4) to remove the defects then speed up my passes with only the weight of the Rupes (still on speed setting 3-4).

    This method has proven to provide 3 months of protective beading still today (my black Sapphire Metallic BMW is the test dummy I've been watching).

    By letting Speed dwell on the paint while I finish the rest of the car has been an effective method for me. It's still easily wiped off afterwards too.


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    Re: What can I top HD Speed with?

    What he said ^^^^^^^

    And you can top with Poxy, it's a great deal @ $14.99!!!

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    Re: What can I top HD Speed with?

    From what you have on hand, I'd prob go with Prima Banana. It may help hide any small defects that are left over. But ideally I'd say Poxy, but lately I have been using Meg's UFF and loving it.

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    Re: What can I top HD Speed with?

    •Since you already have it...
    I'll suggest the Prima Epic:

    -Nothing hardly better than
    a Synthetic Wax over top of
    an AIO/Cleaner-Sealant, IMO.


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    Re: What can I top HD Speed with?

    Meguiars Ultimate Fast Finish would serve your needs. Easy, quick, and good durability.

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