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    Re: Should I give up?

    Wrap it in matte gray😎

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    Should I give up?

    I have a black '15 Yukon bought right off the truck. I haven't had a black vehicle since a '06 Z71, I remember why now. Like someone said find good enough and live with it,give up (I have) or trade it in. I quit worrying about the outside living in west Texas and not having a garage. Having four kids I don't have time to be as OCD as I used to be,at least with a black vehicle. I keep the inside spotless though! I'll trade it in a year so the dealership can worry about it. I have a '15 Silver Ice Sierra and love how easy it is to care for,reminds me why all my vehicles have been silver,white or tan the past 10 years besides the Yukon. I release all my penned up OCD on the truck! 99% of people won't notice what we do on black vehicles. I know it's hard but try and enjoy the ride and quit worrying about the paint,you'll just go crazy and hate a awesome vehicle.


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    Re: Should I give up?

    Quote Originally Posted by pdqgp View Post
    I would have to disagree. I've done a black Impalla and two black Camaro's a 12 and a 14 and all three were pretty tough clear coats to correct. Just like with my Audi, the clear is very tough but when perfectly corrected to a mirror finish, it will scratch very easily and show it with ease. I don't think the clear finish is any different, just shows more imperfections more easily being pure black.
    I said*high end* GM cars, not just Chevy. Impala and Camaro are hardly considered high end. I'm talking Escalade, Corvette, Denali, etc...
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    Re: Should I give up?

    That would mean newer Corvettes & Cadillacs have soft black paint? That would be surprising. But hey anything can happen.


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    Re: Should I give up?

    Quote Originally Posted by WRAPT C5Z06 View Post
    I said*high end* GM cars, not just Chevy. Impala and Camaro are hardly considered high end. I'm talking Escalade, Corvette, Denali, etc...
    I know for a fact Vettes and Caddy's don't have soft paint though. YMMV. I'll let Ron chime back in as he knows better than anyone.
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    Re: Should I give up?

    Dark GM Paint is a bugger. I used to have similar issues with the Dark Blue GM paint.

    Below is what I changed, listed in the order of what I feel helped the most. Not fool proof and I'm sure others may disagree. Just what has helped me.

    1. Use 4-5 different mitts when washing and swap out the 'rinse' bucket often. Grit guard or not, particles get trapped in mitts regardless of swirling and rubbing on the guard.

    2. Use 3-4 drying towels kept in plastic bags until ready to use. If there is any draft/wind at all where you are washing, regardless of how good and quick you washed the vehicle, new scratch capable particles will find there way to it quickly. I also think they come from the water we tend to rinse with.

    3. Although I love the feel of big fluffy wool mitts, and they advertise to trap particles "deep in the fibers to protect the paint" I believe the particles get so "trapped" in wool mitts that they don't always wash out and contribute to what you are experiencing. No matter how "deep in the fibers" the particles are, they move to the surface when washing with them. I have switched to all Microfiber mitts. Microfiber fingers are shallower and easier to notice the trapped particles. They also give more feedback in my opinion. I know it's super geeky, but it has seemed to help.

    4.I tend to go "against conventional wisdom" when washing. I wash the dirtiest sections of the car/truck first always wiping 'down', then move up to the top and wash back to the bottom. Swapping mitts out often.

    This photo is a poor attempt to illustrate. I divide the vehicle up in 3rds. I wash the bottom (green) third first, swapping mitts out two or three times. Then do the top (purple) section with a new mitt or two. Finalizing with another new mitt or two on the middle (blue) section. The arrows are meant to illustrate the direction I wipe.

    Probably has little to do with anything, but I like to think I came up with a new idea to change the car cleaning world forever (joking)
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    Re: Should I give up?

    Quote Originally Posted by UTdetailing View Post
    Dark GM Paint is a bugger. I used to have similar issues with the Dark Blue GM paint.

    Below is what I changed, listed in the order of what I feel helped the most. Not fool proof and I'm sure others may disagree. Just what has helped me.

    1. Use 4-5 different mitts when washing and swap out the 'rinse' bucket often. Grit guard or not, particles get trapped in mitts regardless of swirling and rubbing on the guard.

    2. Use 3-4 drying towels kept in plastic bags until ready to use. If there is any draft/wind at all where you are washing, regardless of how good and quick you washed the vehicle, new scratch capable particles will find there way to it quickly. I also think they come from the water we tend to rinse with.

    3. Although I love the feel of big fluffy wool mitts, and they advertise to trap particles "deep in the fibers to protect the paint" I believe the particles get so "trapped" in wool mitts that they don't always wash out and contribute to what you are experiencing. No matter how "deep in the fibers" the particles are, they move to the surface when washing with them. I have switched to all Microfiber mitts. Microfiber fingers are shallower and easier to notice the trapped particles. They also give more feedback in my opinion. I know it's super geeky, but it has seemed to help.

    4.I tend to go "against conventional wisdom" when washing. I wash the dirtiest sections of the car/truck first always wiping 'down', then move up to the top and wash back to the bottom. Swapping mitts out often.

    This photo is a poor attempt to illustrate. I divide the vehicle up in 3rds. I wash the bottom (green) third first, swapping mitts out two or three times. Then do the top (purple) section with a new mitt or two. Finalizing with another new mitt or two on the middle (blue) section. The arrows are meant to illustrate the direction I wipe.

    Probably has little to do with anything, but I like to think I came up with a new idea to change the car cleaning world forever (joking)
    And now that I am sitting here thinking/reading about how much time, mitts and etc I go through, I may as well go with a rinse-less wash. Bubble bursted!

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    Should I give up?

    @UTdetailing. I keep my drying towels in a large clean zip lock bag until ready to use too.Should I give up?


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    Should I give up?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eldorado2k View Post
    @UTdetailing. I keep my drying towels in a large clean zip lock bag until ready to use too.Should I give up?


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    Same here, as well as my wash mitts. Each has their own zip lock bag.


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    Re: Should I give up?

    Have you tried the two bucket method one bucket with a grit guard and clear water, the other bucket with your favorite auto shampoo?

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