Menzerna SF4000/SF3500 Aficionados...

[dlc95]

Just curious how much you guys/gals are working the product.

Machines, speeds, passes, pressure, pads, etc.

Thanks!

[Harry Da Hamster]

I almost exclusively use Menzerna FG400 and SF3800 (old name SF4500 and older name PO85RD) for everything. Depending on the pad, they have a tremendous range of types of paints it works very well on. For my Flex 3401, i have LC, B&S, and Meguiars MF pads. For my Rupes Bigfoot Nano, i use Rupes pads. I plan to eventually try cheap eBay Chinese made pads too. Menzerna has a super long work time which i prefer. I do fairly small sections (one door split into 4+ sections), 5-9 passes on each application, with about 5lbs of pressure

[dlc95]

I almost exclusively use Menzerna FG400 and SF3800 (old name SF4500 and older name PO85RD) for everything. Depending on the pad, they have a tremendous range of types of paints it works very well on. For my Flex 3401, i have LC, B&S, and Meguiars MF pads. For my Rupes Bigfoot Nano, i use Rupes pads. I plan to eventually try cheap eBay Chinese made pads too. Menzerna has a super long work time which i prefer. I do fairly small sections (one door split into 4+ sections), 5-9 passes on each application, with about 5lbs of pressure

Have you ever had the 4500 dust up on you? How's your arm speed with it too?

[mcate]

I've had 4500 start to dust up. When it does I either blow the pad out with my air hose, or just swap pads.

[Harry Da Hamster]

Have you ever had the 4500 dust up on you? How's your arm speed with it too?

Arm speed medium to slow. If you noticed a trend with Menzerna, everything is slowed down just a bit. You're caressing and making love to the car rather than "wham bam thank you ma'am" with Meguiars 105/205.

Ive never had SF4500 or any Menzerna polish/compound dust up on me. As a matter of fact, it's generally known that Menzerna is on the oily side so it's pretty much impossible to dust if used properly. I always clean the pad with a stiff bristle brush after every panel. I've had FG400 gum up on me, but not dust.

I haven't been on the forum much lately but <<< thats SF4500 (now called SF3800, prior known as PO85RD) in the avatar as i'm priming the pad

[lawrenceSA]

Just curious how much you guys/gals are working the product.

Machines, speeds, passes, pressure, pads, etc.

Thanks!

In terms of the old naming conventions:

Using the Flex 3401...

FG400 - machine speed 3 for all 8 passes.... 2 with heavy pressure and slow arm speed, 2 with medium pressure and slow arm speed, 2 with light pressure and medium arm speed - usually blue foamed wool or orange foam hybrid pads

PF2300 - machine speed 5 x 2 passes with heavy pressure and slow arm speed, machine speed 4.5 x 2 with medium pressure and slow arm speed, machine speed 4 x 2 passes with light pressure and medium arm speed - usually orange or white foam hybrid pads

SF4000- machine speed 5 x 2 passes with heavy pressure and slow arm speed, machine speed 4.5 x 2 with medium pressure and slow arm speed, machine speed 4 x 2 passes with light pressure and medium arm speed - usually white or black foam hybrid pads

[Mike@DedicatedPerfection]

Here is an article I wrote a while back on getting the most out of Menzerna polishes with FLEX machines.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...brid-pads.html

[dlc95]

Here is an article I wrote a while back on getting the most out of Menzerna polishes with FLEX machines.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...brid-pads.html

Ah, I forgot to mist with M34.... I always forget....

Thanks for the refresher course, Mike!!

[Harry Da Hamster]

You might want to test the Menzerna with and without "pad conditioning" first...

IME Menzerna likes a nice clean and dry (not wet with water) pad

[mwoolfso]

+1 +1 +1 on everything posted thus far.... :-)

I have had Menzerna dust up on me when the humidity is low. I polish outside on my driveway 98% of the time. It happens. Some QD spray or water helps as well.