looking for alternative to my favorite APC

[addysdaddy]

P21s Total Autowash (it's a great APC) but even more expensive. You get what u pay for. The Optimum & P21s are the only ones I feel comfortable using while detailing. I've used D101 and it's very strong - decent for cleaning tires and I guess ok for general cleaning assuming u cut it 1 to10.

[builthatch]

that's what i've concluded.

i will update this and say i've been searching for info on how to make this gallon of 3D Citrus Degreaser useful. i mixed a bottle of 10:1 and used it to clean a bunch of areas that my dog threw up on late last night. old school patina hardwood, some linoleum in the laundry room and the area rug thing in there. it was too late to break out my Green Machine because baby was sleeping, so i did the best i could with the 3D and it seemed to work fine. i mean, maybe water would have worked as well, haha, but i did notice it brought up quite a bit of grime on almost all the surfaces i cleaned. again, i could have used Simple Green or something super pedestrian and probably been just as good but at least i have a way to use this stuff. i am still baffled as to how it is SO inferior to OPC.