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    Is it okay to use glaze before coating?

    Is It okay to use glaze such as menzerna top finish machine glaze to hide minor imperfection before coating application?

    coatings claim that, they fill up the minor imperfection to hide them, but not as much as glaze in my opinion.



    I am planning to ceramic coating for the first time on my car.
    and it does have minor swirls since its been almost a year since I polished it, but its mazda...... and mazda paints are extremely soft and thin
    so my plan was to just jewel with SF3500 and glaze it before coating if possible.
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    Re: Is it okay to use glaze before coating?

    The answer is "no".

    In order for a paint coating to properly bond to the paint the paint must be free from any substance that would hinder the coating from bonding.

    Glazes have polishing oils and these oils would interfere with the bonding of the coating.



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    Re: Is it okay to use glaze before coating?

    Quote Originally Posted by choijw2 View Post
    so my plan was to just jewel with SF3500 and glaze it before coating if possible.
    Maybe try this product and follow with CQuartz:

    CarPro Essence Xtreme Gloss Enhancer 250 ml

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    Re: Is it okay to use glaze before coating?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Phillips@Autogeek View Post
    The answer is "no".

    In order for a paint coating to properly bond to the paint the paint must be free from any substance that would hinder the coating from bonding.

    Glazes have polishing oils and these oils would interfere with the bonding of the coating.

    Thats what I though
    and I IPA or coating prep will remove fillers so I guess it just waste time and money


    Quote Originally Posted by Setec Astronomy View Post
    Maybe try this product and follow with CQuartz:

    CarPro Essence Xtreme Gloss Enhancer 250 ml
    Wow I totally forgot about this product lol

    I will try this and then top it off with gtechniq crystal serum light

    Thanks.
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    Re: Is it okay to use glaze before coating?

    short answer, no, long answer nooooooooooo
    Back to the full-time grind.

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    Re: Is it okay to use glaze before coating?

    Quote Originally Posted by cleanmycorolla View Post
    short answer, no, long answer nooooooooooo
    ^ may be my fav post of 2016.


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    Re: Is it okay to use glaze before coating?

    Quote Originally Posted by choijw2 View Post
    Wow I totally forgot about this product lol

    I will try this and then top it off with gtechniq crystal serum light

    Thanks.
    Just a word of warning using a non-CarPro coating over Essence--Optimum, for instance, states unequivocally (well, at least in a forum response) that Essence is incompatible with Optimum coatings. Don't know what Gtechniq says.

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    Re: Is it okay to use glaze before coating?

    There was a thread on Autopia about different coatings over Essence. I stopped following cause the original poster never made an update ;( Maybe that has changed lately.

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    Re: Is it okay to use glaze before coating?

    Quote Originally Posted by swanicyouth View Post
    ^ may be my fav post of 2016.


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

    Thanks!
    Back to the full-time grind.

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    Re: Is it okay to use glaze before coating?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Phillips@Autogeek View Post
    The answer is "no".

    In order for a paint coating to properly bond to the paint the paint must be free from any substance that would hinder the coating from bonding.

    Glazes have polishing oils and these oils would interfere with the bonding of the coating.




    Would this also be true for Wolfgang Finishing Glaze? I plan on applying Wolfgang Uber Ceramic Coating. The review & how to article recommends use of the Wolfgang Finishing Glaze before the perfect finish paint prep and coating application. I realize the paint prep is intended to remove the oils but wanted to make sure the Wolfgang glaze wont interfere with the coatings bond.

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