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Anybody try mixing waxes?
Just checked my product supply in the garage, as I have a big show coming up. I noticed about half a small jar of BF
Blackice and half a jar of BF Midnight sun. Brainstorm, can I mix the 2 together? Any body try mixing waxes?
cant imagine any drawbacks, anyone to chime in? Thanks!
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Re: Anybody try mixing waxes?
The only thing I have tried mixing is compounds/polishes such as M105/D300 to amplify specific characteristics of each product. For example M105/D300 will provide cut similar to M105, give a longer working time, and lower the amount of dust created compared to just using M105... and will finish down really nice like how D300 can with proper technique.
Never tried mixing waxes and sealants though... couldn't hurt to put a dab of both on an applicator pad and see what happens on a test spot. In general though I figure the chemists that formulated the product knew what they were doing and "mixing in" other products will most likely negatively impact some aspect(s) of the original product's performance.
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Re: Anybody try mixing waxes?
Ha!
Just last night I was in my garage looking for something and I opened up my cabinet with my detailing supplies. I reached up to the top shelf where I keep my waxes, and then... BAM! the shelf tilted and all my waxes fell 6+ feet to the concrete garage floor.
A few tins were dented (FK1000p, Collinite 476) and one container cracked the lid (P21s). Hmm, I couldn't leave the P21s in a container with a cracked lid -- it would dry out. It was about 50% remaining in the tub.
I reached for my Natty's Blue -- it was also 50% remaining and I brought them both into the kitchen.
The half tub of Natty's Blue and the half tub of P21s were placed into the microwave. I started to zap them 1 min at a time and I kept an eye on them. A few observations -- the Natty's Blue melted first and quickly. The P21s took about 2 min longer to fully melt. And don't give me the grief about the volatile compounds being evaporated, etc -- The poorboys guys will tell you that even they have a microwave to melt waxes if need be.
I mixed the P21s into the Natty's Blue container and I stirred them together. Then I left the container open over night to cool down. This morning it looked amazing.
So now I have my mix of Natty's Blue + P21S wax!
I came home this evening after work and applied a coat of this to one of my garage queens -- my BMW e46 M3 convertible in Laguna Seca Blue. The car looks AMAZING -- candy coated, glassy, slick, the works... see the pics here
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Re: Anybody try mixing waxes?
I think every detailer has at some point mixed products for various reasons. I myself having recently mixed a rinseless wash with some liquid Carnauba wax to see what the results would be. Aside from the manufacture, none of us can really tell you if it's 100% good or bad.
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Re: Anybody try mixing waxes?
I use to all the time and still do but not as often. When I did I would make sure they were similar in finish though. Example one aio with another aio . so mostly waxes, cleaners and guess some fine polishes. Btw, good stuff Ceiol
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Re: Anybody try mixing waxes?
Originally Posted by Nicholas@Autowerx
The only thing I have tried mixing is compounds/polishes such as M105/D300 to amplify specific characteristics of each product. For example M105/D300 will provide cut similar to M105, give a longer working time, and lower the amount of dust created compared to just using M105... and will finish down really nice like how D300 can with proper technique.
Never tried mixing waxes and sealants though... couldn't hurt to put a dab of both on an applicator pad and see what happens on a test spot. In general though I figure the chemists that formulated the product knew what they were doing and "mixing in" other products will most likely negatively impact some aspect(s) of the original product's performance.
Im not a product mixer as well,but when I get a hammered rv I will tweak here and there.
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Re: Anybody try mixing waxes?
Originally Posted by Ceiol
The half tub of Natty's Blue and the
half tub of P21s were placed into
the microwave. I started to zap them
1 min at a time...
•IMHO:
-Some folks often fail to understand what
they know. This is one of those instances.
Originally Posted by Ceiol
And don't give me the grief about the
volatile compounds being evaporated...
I wouldn't dream about giving you
grief about volatile compounds being:
evaporated. No Sir!
Instead the grief you receive, for using a
Microwave oven to melt Waxes, will be a
notification that there are many dangers
associated with the formation of
molten hydrocarbons...along with their
inherent characteristics.
Yes...
There are other ways (if one must)
to melt Waxes.
Besides using Double Boilers...
try "Solar": It's free (and outdoors).
Bob
"Be wary of the man who urges an action in which he himself incurs no risk."
~Joaquin de Setanti
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Re: Anybody try mixing waxes?
Originally Posted by FUNX650
•IMHO:
-Some folks often fail to understand what
they know. This is one of those instances.
I wouldn't dream about giving you
grief about volatile compounds being:
evaporated. No Sir!
Instead the grief you receive, for using a
Microwave oven to melt Waxes, will be a
notification that there are many dangers
associated with the formation of
molten hydrocarbons...along with their
inherent characteristics.
Yes...
There are other ways (if one must)
to melt Waxes.
Besides using Double Boilers...
try "Solar": It's free (and outdoors).
Bob
thanks for the sage advice, professor
we are all so lucky to have such a modest leader like you who just happens to be an expert in all
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Re: Anybody try mixing waxes?
Originally Posted by Ceiol
Ha!
Just last night I was in my garage looking for something and I opened up my cabinet with my detailing supplies. I reached up to the top shelf where I keep my waxes, and then... BAM! the shelf tilted and all my waxes fell 6+ feet to the concrete garage floor.
A few tins were dented (FK1000p, Collinite 476) and one container cracked the lid (P21s). Hmm, I couldn't leave the P21s in a container with a cracked lid -- it would dry out. It was about 50% remaining in the tub.
I reached for my Natty's Blue -- it was also 50% remaining and I brought them both into the kitchen.
The half tub of Natty's Blue and the half tub of P21s were placed into the microwave. I started to zap them 1 min at a time and I kept an eye on them. A few observations -- the Natty's Blue melted first and quickly. The P21s took about 2 min longer to fully melt. And don't give me the grief about the volatile compounds being evaporated, etc -- The poorboys guys will tell you that even they have a microwave to melt waxes if need be.
I mixed the P21s into the Natty's Blue container and I stirred them together. Then I left the container open over night to cool down. This morning it looked amazing.
So now I have my mix of Natty's Blue + P21S wax!
I came home this evening after work and applied a coat of this to one of my garage queens -- my BMW e46 M3 convertible in Laguna Seca Blue. The car looks AMAZING -- candy coated, glassy, slick, the works... see the pics here
Great idea. So cool that it worked.
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Re: Anybody try mixing waxes?
Originally Posted by Ceiol
thanks for the sage advice, professor
we are all so lucky to have such a
modest leader like you who just
happens to be an expert in all
^^^Bombastic bloviating^^^
But, as a perfunctory courtesy:
I will give you the benefit of the doubt
that someday I will, somehow, be charmed
by your aquaintance.
I'm generous that way.
Bob
"Be wary of the man who urges an action in which he himself incurs no risk."
~Joaquin de Setanti
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