The Uber expensive waxes...what are they REALLY?

**AeroCleanse** · 02-25-2012, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by Klasse Act

You mean the ones the dealerships try and sell in the showroom with the test vehicle having it on the hood

No way, I mean like Opti-Coat (Guard), Cquartz, GTechniq C1

**Kris R** · 02-25-2012, 11:28 PM

Um...clear coat is a permanent paint coating. And we all know that clear coat isnt permanent. Just because it came from the factory shiny does not mean it stays that way. So you're telling me a 60 dollar tube that you wipe on offers more protection than a two part mixed urethane coating that is sprayed on? Can resist gasoline and other solvents?? Come on guys really??? I know most here are really mentally disturbed OCD people disguised as detailers but I really need some other paint and body guys to chime in. An 1800 wax to protect a 1000 paint job.....

**AeroCleanse** · 02-25-2012, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by Kris R

Um...clear coat is a permanent paint coating. And we all know that clear coat isnt permanent. Just because it came from the factory shiny does not mean it stays that way. So you're telling me a 60 dollar tube that you wipe on offers more protection than a two part mixed urethane coating that is sprayed on? Can resist gasoline and other solvents?? Come on guys really???

Clear coat is paint without pigment. Yes they can resist them. They don't last forever, GTechniq says C1 will last 5 years, which is way more than a coat of wax will last.

If you are referring to expensive wax, then its about the look as much as anything else. Swissvax Crystal Rock in 3 layers lasts about a year max.

**C. Charles Hahn** · 02-25-2012, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by Kris R

Um...clear coat is a permanent paint coating. And we all know that clear coat isnt permanent. Just because it came from the factory shiny does not mean it stays that way. So you're telling me a 60 dollar tube that you wipe on offers more protection than a two part mixed urethane coating that is sprayed on? Can resist gasoline and other solvents?? Come on guys really??? I know most here are really mentally disturbed OCD people disguised as detailers but I really need some other paint and body guys to chime in. An 1800 wax to protect a 1000 paint job.....

Evidently you haven't done all of your homework. Search around, there is plenty of technical information and demonstrated proof of what we're talking about, here. (Note that much of it exists outside of this particular forum/site, but it's not hard to find.)

Sorry, but "paint and body guys" don't typically know much about waxes/sealants/coatings. They're not going to be much help to you on that front.

**Kris R** · 02-26-2012, 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by C. Charles Hahn

Evidently you haven't done all of your homework. Search around, there is plenty of technical information and demonstrated proof of what we're talking about, here. (Note that much of it exists outside of this particular forum/site, but it's not hard to find.)

Sorry, but "paint and body guys" don't typically know much about waxes/sealants/coatings. They're not going to be much help to you on that front.

Evidently you missed the point of what I was saying. Good day Sir.

**CEE DOG** · 02-26-2012, 01:26 AM

The answer to the question in your title is: A Cash Cow

**CEE DOG** · 02-26-2012, 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by Kris R

Um...clear coat is a permanent paint coating. And we all know that clear coat isnt permanent. Just because it came from the factory shiny does not mean it stays that way. So you're telling me a 60 dollar tube that you wipe on offers more protection than a two part mixed urethane coating that is sprayed on? Can resist gasoline and other solvents?? Come on guys really??? I know most here are really mentally disturbed OCD people disguised as detailers but I really need some other paint and body guys to chime in. An 1800 wax to protect a 1000 paint job.....

Well, I tested CQuartz and Opticoat with Muratic Acid and Straight Chlorine as well as other things and yes it resisted them. Check out the videos in my thread for yourself.

**Kris R** · 02-26-2012, 01:38 AM

Originally Posted by CEE DOG

Well, I tested CQuartz and Opticoat with Muratic Acid and Straight Chlorine as well as other things and yes it resisted them. Check out the videos in my thread for yourself.

Did you also dump those same chemicals on untreated paint? If so what was the outcome? Just curious what the control was in this experiment.

**SRTSean** · 02-26-2012, 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by Kris R

Did you also dump those same chemicals on untreated paint? If so what was the outcome? Just curious what the control was in this experiment.

Do you understand the purpose of permanent paint coatings and how they completely differ from clear coat?

**Kris R** · 02-26-2012, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by SRTSean

Do you understand the purpose of permanent paint coatings and how they completely differ from clear coat?

Absolutely. I've been to the product(s) websites, watched the YouTube videos and did my homework.

I'm not even going to dive into the fact that these are called permanent paint coatings but Cquartz says "up to two years."
I simply want to know what method was used to determine that it resisted gasoline and acid. I think I might get some test it out myself.