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Need help after the cut and buff
Hi guys. First post. Just finished a new paint restoration on a black '71 Nova. Looked great under the florescent lights and out in the sun. Had a halogen light on and used it to look at the paint up close and, WOW, look at all those fine scratches! Turns out I was putting all those fine scratches in the paint during the final wash and hand polish. I use a microfiber to wash with, blow dry, and a new microfiber to polish and a new microfiber to remove the polish with. My customer would never see these scratches but I know they are there and they drive me crazy. I want to step up my finished product which I think requires taking the final detail a few steps farther. I have a couple decades experience with wet sanding and buffing out new paint but exactly ZERO experience with an orbital polisher. I need some serious recommendations, tips, and techniques.
Just from spending time on this site I'm thinking maybe a Porter-Cable 7424-XP but am totally lost on what pads, bonnets, towels, and polishes to use. For the time being I need recommendations on what to use after the cut and buff on fresh paint, especially black. Please suggest the products and descriptions available through this site and also advise if these products contain silicone as that is not acceptable in a body restoration shop environment (fish eyes in paint). Are there any acceptable silicone-free substitutes?
Thanks for your help.
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Re: Need help after the cut and buff
Best tip I can give you is to make sure your applicator pad is clean. I clean mine after each car, or grab a new one
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If the paint is soft the scratches start the minute your done with polishing. It seems the more perfect I get the paint the quicker the scratches come back. Luckily for me, my eyes aren't as good as they used to be so I can't see them as well as I used to.
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WOW! Thanks for the replies, fellas. Mike, I am going to get a list together based on what you have shown me and will be getting an order in soon. Thanks a bunch!
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MOST polishes are body shop safe. I have the PC7424XP and love it! But you can't go wrong with the Griots either. I think deciding pads is a lot about personal preference but the Hydrotech pads work really well. Also since you have no experience with an orbital you could pick up Mikes book and it'll teach you all the basics! 
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mike has offered some great advice. so im assuming by cut and buff you used a wool pad and a rotary which will leave swirl marks, so i would just get a random orbital machine, a 6 pack of lake country 5.5" flat pads(hydrotechs seem to not last as long) get orange,white,black and get some meguiars m105/m205 or some pinnacle total swirl remover/advanced finishing polish or optimum compound II and polish II, say you use m105 i would go over it with the m105/orange then go back over it with the m205/white, however the m205/white might do it if your still getting micro marring switch to the black pad with m205, im betting what i listed will work great and look great. and as usual take some pics to show us all and post them in the show and shine section, always remember after you cut and buff you will need to polish it more, id say 99% of body shops just cut and buff and use a glaze to fill in the compounding swirls/haze and that is why it will look great untill you wash it a few times. good luck cant wait to see how she looks!
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Thanks shoeless and opie . Will follow up on your recommendations.
I use the 3M Perfect-It system (rotary) right now which begins with wool and finishes with a foam pad and Ultrafine polish. Works real well for me but I want to take it beyond that, which is why I am on here. The results I have seen on here are amazing. Thanks, guys.
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