What products should I use????

[Mike Phillips]

also, instrucitons on using the other product would be nice just like you did for the Menzerna.

thanks

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Which other product?

[#1STUNNA]

Most PBE stores carry 3M and Meguiar's, some also carry a few other brands...

Trying to create a 100% swirl free finish using only a direct drive, rotaty buffer is usually a challenge depending upon your criteria for perfection and how you check for it.

You can try Meguiar's M205 or M09, or 3M Ultrafine

Let us know how it goes...

would the directions be the same? set the polisher on the lowest setting available and work it at a slow speed for all of the products listed above?

[#1STUNNA]

Most PBE stores carry 3M and Meguiar's, some also carry a few other brands...

Trying to create a 100% swirl free finish using only a direct drive, rotaty buffer is usually a challenge depending upon your criteria for perfection and how you check for it.

You can try Meguiar's M205 or M09, or 3M Ultrafine

Let us know how it goes...

would the directions be the same? set the polisher on the lowest setting available and work it at a slow speed for all of the products listed above?

[Mike Phillips]

would the directions be the same? set the polisher on the lowest setting available and work it at a slow speed for all of the products listed above?

Yes.

Usually when trying to remove a defect you need to remove a little paint, to do this you need to engage the abrasives with the paint to force them to take a little bite out of it in simple terms. Then as a little paint is being removed and the upper surface is being leveled to the lowest depths of the deepest defects you're trying to remove you want to reduce your pressure so you don't leave any swirls in the paint by the abrasives you're using to remove swirls.

There's a number of variables at play PLUS the type of abrasive technology is a HUGE factor.

Menzerna PO85RD and M09 and possibly 3M Ultrafine are DAT Products, that is they use diminishing abrasives and correctly used you work the product until the diminishing abrasives have completely broken down. If you stop buffing the product before the diminishing abrasives have 100% broken down then they will have still be cutting or abrading the paint and thus you will not have achieved a 100% swirl or hologram free finish.

The polishing oils usually fill and hide the swirls so they don't show up till after the polishing oils have been removed through repeated wiping using a spray detailer or repeated washings.


M205 uses SMAT or Super Micro Abrasive Technology so the abrasives don't really break down thus you can stop at any point during the buffing cycle. I typically don't see M205 finish down as perfectly as the Menzerna product using only a rotary buffer or even a DA Polisher but you usually won't see the true results without chemically stripping the paint and then inspecting in full on, bright sunlight.

Slowest speed setting too...