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    Request: Advice on removing road acquired spots off of ceramic/PPF

    I have PPF and fresh but fully cured Adam's Advanced Graphene coating. After a drive today, I noticed that there were about a dozen spots in front of the car. They do not look like tar. They could be bird dropping but I am not sure. Based on their roundish shape, they were in liquid form when they contacted the car.

    I used some waterless detail spray and was able to remove them with a bit of rubbing, or so I thought. Even though they were no longer visible to my eyes under the garage shop lights, they are still there.

    As you might know, Adam's coatings have a UV tracer. Under UV, all those spots light up brighter than the graphene ceramic coating, as if the spots were never removed. I washed the area with soap, it made no difference. Neither did 50% IPA. Whatever it is, I don't want it to etch into the coating or PPF.

    What can I use to try to remove these spots without harming the ceramic coating or PPF? I want to use only what is necessary to remove the spots, in escalating aggressiveness. It's hard to find the right solvent not knowing what the spots are. The only clue is that they fluoresce under UV. Windex? Simple Green? I don't want to use Goof Off or Goo Gone in fear that they will damage the coating or PPF.

    I'd appreciate some advice.

    Thanks.

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    Re: Request: Advice on removing road acquired spots off of ceramic/PPF

    Nothing should be sticking if you have a coating over PPF, could be bee poo it's a gold shiny type smells like honey, Google it i get it on the car in spring it's like they are attracted to the colour.

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    Re: Request: Advice on removing road acquired spots off of ceramic/PPF

    Quote Originally Posted by Tasmania View Post
    Nothing should be sticking if you have a coating over PPF, could be bee poo it's a gold shiny type smells like honey, Google it i get it on the car in spring it's like they are attracted to the colour.
    I was surprised that it even took effort to wipe off (so it was not visible to the eye). There were bugs and other things that I was able to just wipe off with no effort. The spots were clear with an outline. Some were as large as 1/2" in diameter, so I doubt it's bee. I'm just looking for something to remove them.

    Presuming it's bird--which is acidic, is it better to use an acid-based cleaner (vinegar, Goo Gone) or alkali--baking soda/water?

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    Re: Request: Advice on removing road acquired spots off of ceramic/PPF

    If anything polish the area and reapply the coating.

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    Re: Request: Advice on removing road acquired spots off of ceramic/PPF

    Quote Originally Posted by The Guz View Post
    If anything polish the area and reapply the coating.
    That would be my last resort. I was looking for more aggressive cleaners that do not damage the coating or PPF.

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    Re: Request: Advice on removing road acquired spots off of ceramic/PPF

    I ended up trying 50/50 vinegar and Goo Gone. Neither made a difference. What would fluoresce under UV, sticks to ceramic coating, and is so hard to remove?

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    Re: Request: Advice on removing road acquired spots off of ceramic/PPF

    How long have the spots been there, maybe etched the PPF try a little heat from a hair dryer or heat gun then reapply coating.

    Through up a pic for the boy's that do this for a day job they might help

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    Re: Request: Advice on removing road acquired spots off of ceramic/PPF

    Quote Originally Posted by Tasmania View Post
    How long have the spots been there, maybe etched the PPF try a little heat from a hair dryer or heat gun then reapply coating.

    Through up a pic for the boy's that do this for a day job they might help
    Thanks. The spots were from a drive yesterday and I saw them last night, so within 10 hours. They are no longer visible to the naked eye--only fluoresce under UV. I'm not sure if I can capture that on a camera but I will try later. I have ceramic coating on top off PPF so I hope at the most it's the coating that is etched.

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    Re: Request: Advice on removing road acquired spots off of ceramic/PPF

    Try clay? Clay will work on just about anything.

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    Re: Request: Advice on removing road acquired spots off of ceramic/PPF

    Quote Originally Posted by DanaDetailingPros View Post
    Try clay? Clay will work on just about anything.
    The surface is perfectly smooth. I did spot-try clay, but it made no difference. I tried heat too, nothing.

    So far, waterless detailer, soap, IPA, Goo Gone, Simple Green, Vinegar 50/50 have not worked. I tried Goof Off on one of the spots. It did work, but it also removed the UV reactivity, which I take to mean that it's removed at least in part the ceramic coating.

    Compare the images below (linked). The spots are only visible under UV. Btw, the edges are fluorescing brightly because of the accumulation of the graphene ceramic coating.

    https://i.imgur.com/DO9Gkl2.jpg
    https://i.imgur.com/4sXdm9X.jpg
    https://i.imgur.com/XaW0Sc3.jpg
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