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Re: P21s/Maguiar’s Ultimate Wax
Originally Posted by
Mike Phillips
First - since this is your first post to the forum,
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The Meguiar's Ultimate line is very good.
My guess is without ever seeing the car, after 9+ years - well my guess is the car will fail the Baggie Test. I RARELY come across a car that passes the Baggie Test. And the two most common places cars get overspray paint are body shops, (where they spray paint), and a Car Guy's Garage - because car guys tend to use Rattle Cans and never cover their car. Just saying...
The Baggie Test as seen on Competition Ready TV with AJ and Mike Phillips
Nothing against P21S but last I checked it's a traditional Carnauba Wax. Meguiar's Ultimate Wax on the other hand is going to be a "blended wax". This means the chemist will include a blend of ingredients to bring out all the best appearances features of urethane paint plus add protection.
That said, if you did the proper prep work to a white car and then used both products - you probably couldn't tell the difference as that is the downside of white paint. You do not get the deep dark reflections like you get with dark colors. Normally what I aim for is to maximize gloss and the way you maximize gloss is by having a smooth surface. A smooth surface starts with smooth paint and if paint fails the baggie test then it will not be as glossy as possible.
Thanks Mike for the detailed response. Let me ask you this. Assuming the car does need to be clayed, would it be beneficial to follow it up with the P21 paint cleaner before waxing? Thought is the cleaner would polish out any “maring” from the clay.
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Re: P21s/Maguiar’s Ultimate Wax
I used P21S years ago and while it looked good the durability was poor. Chances are that if you are in a hot climate it will break down even in a garage.
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Re: P21s/Maguiar’s Ultimate Wax
I would suggest trying Meguiar's Ultimate Paste Wax and skip the P21. The P21 as a carnauba wax will turn acidic overtime. Ultimate Paste Wax is probably the only non-SiO2 based protection I still use.
Meguiar's ULW and UPW seem to have different results, I remember UPW having a very wet but very bright shine.
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Re: P21s/Maguiar’s Ultimate Wax
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Re: P21s/Maguiar’s Ultimate Wax
“Remember - I have to type and teach for the most EXTREME OCD type people.”
Well put, Mike.
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Re: P21s/Maguiar’s Ultimate Wax
I have done both on the older white Escape we have as far as claying and following with a polish and with out. It all matters the time I have. But these are my own vehicles.
If I was working on someone else's it would get polished after, unless the owner is fine with the way it looks. But they would have to understand that it is what it is if they did not want to put out for it.
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Re: P21s/Maguiar’s Ultimate Wax
Originally Posted by
WillSports3
I would suggest trying Meguiar's Ultimate Paste Wax and skip the P21. The P21 as a carnauba wax will turn acidic overtime. Ultimate Paste Wax is probably the only non-SiO2 based protection I still use.
Meguiar's ULW and UPW seem to have different results, I remember UPW having a very wet but very bright shine.
I have both and remember there being a difference, but did not remember what. It has been a while since I used either one.
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