Trouble with 2016 Mustang (Black) paint.

**Ruben12** · 05-29-2016, 07:59 PM

Hey guys! I am completely new to detailing. I just recently purchased a TorqX along with the Chemical Guys Vline polishes and hex pads. I have had a hard time trying to perfect the condition of the paint. I stopped using the orange(most aggressive) hex pad because it was way too firm for the paint. I then went with the white pad and a mild cutting polish. As expected there was marring left over. I then went with a grey pad/finishing polish and the marring was slightly taken away but it was still there and hazy. I am going insane as to what to do next. I don't want to be cutting anymore clear coat off my paint. If anyone can give me some advice that would be great! Thanks!

**WRAPT C5Z06** · 05-29-2016, 08:32 PM

Unfortunately, it sounds like you have soft paint. It can be very difficult to dial in a perfect finish on soft paint. Even experienced people have problems. Change the speed and pressure. CG polishes aren't that good, IMO.

**TTQ B4U** · 05-29-2016, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by Ruben12

Hey guys! I am completely new to detailing. I just recently purchased a TorqX along with the Chemical Guys Vline polishes and hex pads. I have had a hard time trying to perfect the condition of the paint. I stopped using the orange(most aggressive) hex pad because it was way too firm for the paint.

Something isn't right here. An orange pad on a black mustang won't mar or leave problems like that. My guess is the pad and product are picking up contaminants from the paint. The more aggressive Yellow combined with compound will leave hazing but even that won't mar the paint.

Did you clay and chemically decontaminate the paint prior to polishing? Are you using V36 or V34?

then went with the white pad and a mild cutting polish. As expected there was marring left over. I then went with a grey pad/finishing polish and the marring was slightly taken away but it was still there and hazy. I am going insane as to what to do next. I don't want to be cutting anymore clear coat off my paint. If anyone can give me some advice that would be great! Thanks!

Not personally familiar with the V-line of products but I've polished three mustangs over the last year, orange, red and black using HD PRoducts and Megs Products with an orange pad and had fantastic results.

I would change up products if you've decontaminated everything.

**WRAPT C5Z06** · 05-29-2016, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by pdqgp

Something isn't right here. An orange pad on a black mustang won't mar or leave problems like that. My guess is the pad and product are picking up contaminants from the paint. The more aggressive Yellow combined with compound will leave hazing but even that won't mar the paint.

Did you clay and chemically decontaminate the paint prior to polishing? Are you using V36 or V34?

Not personally familiar with the V-line of products but I've polished three mustangs over the last year, orange, red and black using HD PRoducts and Megs Products with an orange pad and had fantastic results.

I would change up products if you've decontaminated everything.

Every car is different. Have you polished a black 2015+ mustang?

**TTQ B4U** · 05-29-2016, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by WRAPT C5Z06

Every car is different. Have you polished a black 2015+ mustang?

Yep. Both the red and orange are 2015's. HDSpeed and an orange pad on those two. May be doing another orange one soon.

**WRAPT C5Z06** · 05-29-2016, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by pdqgp

Yep. Both the red and orange are 2015's. HDSpeed and an orange pad on those two. May be doing another orange one soon.

Ah, ok. Cool.

**obihave12** · 05-29-2016, 09:42 PM

Multiple questions...did you start off with the most aggressive method by using the orange pad? Also what V line polish did you start off with as well?

Was the car clayed and decontaminated before hand and what technique are you using? How much pressure and was this done in direct sunlight?

**Ruben12** · 05-30-2016, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by obihave12

Multiple questions...did you start off with the most aggressive method by using the orange pad? Also what V line polish did you start off with as well?

Was the car clayed and decontaminated before hand and what technique are you using? How much pressure and was this done in direct sunlight?

Yes, I completely decontaminated the paint. I also made sure to get the iron contaminants out with IronX. I started off with an orange hex pad and VSS(Scratch and swirl remover) which completely destroyed my paint. I then went with V36 and a white pad. That kind of cleared the marring. From there I went V38 and a gray pad. That really didn't do much but leave behind a light haze and moro marring. I was using a cross hatch pattern with 3 passes. I was went from putting 5 lbs of pressure to no pressure to about 7 lbs of pressure. None of those seemed to fix the problem. Also I was doing it in a shaded area with cool paint.

**Ruben12** · 05-30-2016, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by pdqgp

Something isn't right here. An orange pad on a black mustang won't mar or leave problems like that. My guess is the pad and product are picking up contaminants from the paint. The more aggressive Yellow combined with compound will leave hazing but even that won't mar the paint.

Did you clay and chemically decontaminate the paint prior to polishing? Are you using V36 or V34?

Not personally familiar with the V-line of products but I've polished three mustangs over the last year, orange, red and black using HD PRoducts and Megs Products with an orange pad and had fantastic results.

I would change up products if you've decontaminated everything.

Yeah I made sure to decontaminate the paint. I also removed the possible iron contaminants. The car is only 5 months old, so the paint was in pretty good condition. Maybe the Chemical Guys orange hex pad is different from the orange pad you are talking about? I have literally tried everything with this paint and it is just proving to me that it is extremely soft. I attacked the paint with V36 and a less abrasive pad (White) that also left a haze and some marring. I then went V38 and a soft pad (gray) and it cleared some of the marring up but not all of it. There is still a haze to the paint and micro marring left over. I'm thinking I might have to change pads/products. Any suggestions as to what I should do next?

**Ruben12** · 05-30-2016, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by WRAPT C5Z06

Unfortunately, it sounds like you have soft paint. It can be very difficult to dial in a perfect finish on soft paint. Even experienced people have problems. Change the speed and pressure. CG polishes aren't that good, IMO.

Any suggestions?? I'm starting to panic here because parts of my hood are marred up due to my test spots