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Questions About Polishing Glass to Remove Scratches
I have a possible project coming up where the exterior glass will need to be polished to remove scratches.
It's a 1969 Z28 Camaro with the original glass.
I've seen it done and read some articles but have never done it myself.
I have some questions:
1. Which is better to use, a rotary or a DA?
2. What speed should be used for the rotary or DA? I'm thinking 1500 rpm for the rotary and full speed for the DA?
3. I know some have taken about 2 hours just for the windshield, not including the prep work. If the windshield was divided into four sections, that's about 30 minutes per section, that's a lot of passes in just one section. How do you know when is enough? Do you do a few passes and then wipe and check and if needed repeat the process?
4. Do you use the same procedure with the side and back windows?
5. It looks like this is the polish to use: CarPro Ceriglass Glass Polish, windshield polish, water spot remover
6. Should I go with the 5" or 3" pads? I'd rather use the 5" pads to knock it out quicker: CarPro Rayon Glass Polishing Pad, glass leveling discs
7. Any other suggestions? I know about covering up so as not to get splatter everywhere.
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Re: Questions About Polishing Glass to Remove Scratches
Boy that's going to be real glass, not whatever that soft stuff is they use today (especially Asian cars). I always use a rotary, and the pad size is going to depend on the curvature of the windshield because the glass pads don't have much give. That windshield looks pretty flat so you should be ok with the 5", unless you want to edge it with the 3".
And yes a lot of passes and a lot of checking and a lot of water to keep the glass from getting hot (which it will). The reason it takes so long is that it's really pretty mild (for glass)--it's kind of like trying to take out deep marring on paint with a finishing polish. There is a sanding method out there using some 3M PSA discs that I'd like to try some day.
Oh, and don't put too much stock in my opinions, I've only polished windshields a few times.
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Re: Questions About Polishing Glass to Remove Scratches
Originally Posted by Setec Astronomy
Boy that's going to be real glass, not whatever that soft stuff is they use today (especially Asian cars). I always use a rotary, and the pad size is going to depend on the curvature of the windshield because the glass pads don't have much give. That windshield looks pretty flat so you should be ok with the 5", unless you want to edge it with the 3".
And yes a lot of passes and a lot of checking and a lot of water to keep the glass from getting hot (which it will). The reason it takes so long is that it's really pretty mild (for glass)--it's kind of like trying to take out deep marring on paint with a finishing polish. There is a sanding method out there using some 3M PSA discs that I'd like to try some day.
Oh, and don't put too much stock in my opinions, I've only polished windshields a few times.
Thanks Setec! I think I'll get the 5" and 3" pads. I think the 3" pads would be better for the rear side windows.
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Re: Questions About Polishing Glass to Remove Scratches
Oh, you're doing ALL the glass? That will be a lot.
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Re: Questions About Polishing Glass to Remove Scratches
Originally Posted by Setec Astronomy
Oh, you're doing ALL the glass? That will be a lot.
Yes, he's got scratches on all the glass. I know it's going to be time consuming for sure.
He wants to keep the original glass if possible.
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Re: Questions About Polishing Glass to Remove Scratches
Originally Posted by FrankS
He wants to keep the original glass if possible.
I would too. Nice car, good luck with it!
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Re: Questions About Polishing Glass to Remove Scratches
Originally Posted by FrankS
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3. I know some have taken about 2 hours just for the windshield, not including the prep work. If the windshield was divided into four sections, that's about 30 minutes per section, that's a lot of passes in just one section. How do you know when is enough? Do you do a few passes and then wipe and check and if needed repeat the process?
Continue working the section until all the defects are removed. Glass is a very hard substrate, unlike paint which is soft (relatively speaking, of course).
Last summer a gentleman with a brand new Lincoln hired me to fix a couple scratches in his windshield that he induced himself (don't ask how). The scratches were about 10" x 10" section and it took me nearly 40 minutes to completely remove them. I used a Porter Cable 7424xp, CarPro CeriGlass and a Rayon Glass Pad (5"). I chose the Porter Cable because I knew that if I accidentally induced more scratches (pig tail with a DA versus arc scratches with a rotary) they would be easier to remove. It's not uncommon to induce scratches with a polish as abrasive as CeriGlass (cerium oxide is a very sharp, aggressive abrasive). Shake the polish often and take your time.
Yes it takes a lot of time and a lot of patience to polish an entire windshield. I hope you're charging him a pretty penny.
Originally Posted by FrankS
Great choice, as CeriGlass is currently the only cerium oxide based glass polish that we carry.
Originally Posted by FrankS
I would use the 5 inch pad.
Originally Posted by FrankS
[COLOR=#333333]7. Any other suggestions? I know about covering up so as not to get splatter everywhere.
Cover the entire vehicle outside of the glass and charge him a large sum of money.
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Re: Questions About Polishing Glass to Remove Scratches
I had a place polish out a streak made when a bit of concrete got caught under my wiper. Car was brand new and actually happened before I bought it. 3 hours but completely disappeared. Dealer paid for it. 135.00 It was an Infiniti.
2018 Subaru Outback Touring 3.6R Crystal White Pearl, 2014 Ford F-150 FX4 - Oxford White Clearcoat.
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Re: Questions About Polishing Glass to Remove Scratches
Originally Posted by Nick@Autogeek
I used a Porter Cable 7424xp, CarPro CeriGlass and a Rayon Glass Pad (5"). I chose the Porter Cable because I knew that if I accidentally induced more scratches (pig tail with a DA versus arc scratches with a rotary) they would be easier to remove. It's not uncommon to induce scratches with a polish as abrasive as CeriGlass (cerium oxide is a very sharp, aggressive abrasive). Shake the polish often and take your time.
Nick, I've been using the old Diamondite Glass Resurfacing Crème...was that a cerium oxide polish and how would you rate its aggressiveness vs. CeriGlass? I never had any polish-induced marring from it that I could tell, even when I used to use the hard-as-a-rock LC glass pads.
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Re: Questions About Polishing Glass to Remove Scratches
Originally Posted by Setec Astronomy
Nick, I've been using the old Diamondite Glass Resurfacing Crème...was that a cerium oxide polish and how would you rate its aggressiveness vs. CeriGlass? I never had any polish-induced marring from it that I could tell, even when I used to use the hard-as-a-rock LC glass pads.
Aggressiveness is comparable. Where it differs is the quality of the abrasives. Glass Resurfacing Creme contains smaller, more refined cerium oxide abrasives, albeit a far more concentrated blend compared to Ceriglass.
Hold onto your bottle of Glass Resurfacing Creme. It's highly sought after in the detailing world.
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