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    Re: Klasse High Gloss Sealant Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Eldorado2k View Post
    What makes you think Megs Gold Class has additives?
    I've not seen any evidence of it, and as mentioned earlier, I had no issues using it when layering Klasse SG.
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    Re: Klasse High Gloss Sealant Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Desertnate View Post
    I've not seen any evidence of it, and as mentioned earlier, I had no issues using it when layering Klasse SG.

    I hope not.. Because I use D111 Shampoo Plus [which is similar as far as being said to have "conditioners"] and it would suck if it did contain additives that could negate or interfere with lsp. I've never had a reason to think so either.

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    Re: Klasse High Gloss Sealant Question

    I was also wondering about the conditioners in Gold Class and if they will mess with an LSPs characteristics.... I dug a little and found on MOL that it's slightly over PH neutral with a rating of 8.
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    Re: Klasse High Gloss Sealant Question

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    I was also wondering about the conditioners in Gold Class and if they will mess with an LSPs characteristics.... I dug a little and found on MOL that it's slightly over PH neutral with a rating of 8.

    Personally, I'd be far less concerned with it being a tad off PH neutral and more interested in whether the "conditioners" could somehow affect things.. the way lets say Ultimate Wash & Wax could.. I've yet to use that soap to this day, that being the main reason.

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    Re: Klasse High Gloss Sealant Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Eldorado2k View Post
    Personally, I'd be far less concerned with it being a tad off PH neutral and more interested in whether the "conditioners" could somehow affect things.. the way lets say Ultimate Wash & Wax could.. I've yet to use that soap to this day, that being the main reason.
    yea the PH level doesn't bother me at all....I use pretty good LSPs....BUT I don't want their beading/sheeting characteristics to be compromised from some unknown surfactants left on the paint from the soap.

    p.s. surfactants is my big boy word I got from Bob
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    Re: Klasse High Gloss Sealant Question

    Quote Originally Posted by roguerobot View Post
    Somewhere here there is a post about mixing
    KHGS and Quick Wax for touch ups.

    I really like this solution.

    Basically you add a few oz of KHGS to a small
    spray bottle of something like Meguirs Ultimate
    Quick Wax.
    (something like 2oz of Klasse to 6-8 oz of quick wax).

    After I wash, I spray the panels with this
    spray wax mix, and wipe off.
    Looks great, and so far has maintained the
    beading throughout winter. Once spring is here,
    I will reapply the KAIO/KHGS regimen again.
    -For a "Quick Detailer Spray":
    1:6 ratio of KHGSG:UQD (approx. 1/2oz KSG:8oz. UQD)

    -For a "Detail Spray Wax":
    1:4 ratio of KHGSG:UQW (2oz KSG:8 oz. UQW)


    Legend:
    KHGSG=Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze
    UQD=Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Detailer
    UQW=Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Wax

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    Re: Klasse High Gloss Sealant Question

    Quote Originally Posted by 4u2nvinmtl View Post
    I like Meg's Hyper Wash (not over the counter)
    or Mothers Gold Car Shampoo (available over the counter)

    Don't use an APC or Simple Green on the paint.
    I called up autogeek yesterday with the same question and they said they same thing about avoiding a wash with wax in it. He didn't sound certain about what to use for wash but agreed to avoid any additives. He recommended something along the lines of Meguiar’s D101 All Purpose Cleaner. Simply green (EDIT: Just read a few places online to avoid using Green anywhere on the car) having similar uses and being all purpose... As long as whatever cleaner doesn't make the claim of adding a shine or streak free?

    Meg's gold class has this for a description
    Designed to both clean and condition paint in one step
    Features an advanced formula that cleans without stripping wax protection
    Foams away tough dirt, road grime and contaminants
    Contains an ultra rich paint conditioner that leaves a radiant look on the paint

    All of this conditioner talk makes me VERY suspicious of a residue being left on top of the the sealant. I'd imagine we'd want to strip everything besides the acrylic.

    Any other input is greatly appreciated.

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    Re: Klasse High Gloss Sealant Question

    Quote Originally Posted by FUNX650 View Post
    -For a "Quick Detailer Spray":
    1:6 ratio of KHGSG:UQD (approx. 1/2oz KSG:8oz. UQD)

    -For a "Detail Spray Wax":
    1:4 ratio of KHGSG:UQW (2oz KSG:8 oz. UQW)


    Legend:
    KHGSG=Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze
    UQD=Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Detailer
    UQW=Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Wax

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    This is another one for those who don't like playing the role of mad chemist. It's the equivalent to a quick wax for Klasse SG users.

    Sonus Acrylic Glanz Spray Sealant, Sonus paint sealant spray, spray paint sealant

    This would be the quick detailer version.

    Sonus Acrylic Spritz Quick Detail Spray, quick detailer, instant detailer, acrylic detail spray
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    Re: Klasse High Gloss Sealant Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Desertnate View Post
    This is another one for those who don't like playing the role of mad chemist. It's the equivalent to a quick wax for Klasse SG users.

    Sonus Acrylic Glanz Spray Sealant, Sonus paint sealant spray, spray paint sealant

    This would be the quick detailer version.

    Sonus Acrylic Spritz Quick Detail Spray, quick detailer, instant detailer, acrylic detail spray



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    Re: Klasse High Gloss Sealant Question

    I called up Meg's, they said to stick with Meguiar's Deep Crystal Car Wash if I want to wash my car and have nothing left behind on the Acrylic.

    Thanks all for the help but I think I've solved my own problem this time.

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