Blackfire Crystal Coat Failure

**atgonzales** · 05-23-2015, 04:26 PM

just finished my wife's 2008 Town and Country van ans the coating when touches shows streaking, rought to the touch, now is chaulky. my prep was 2 bucket, clay, polish Optimum 2, IPA wipe down. tell me what i did wrong and is there a way to correct

Adam

**MarkD51** · 05-23-2015, 05:39 PM

Hard to say, no pics which might "slightly" help us members.

Some info you left out, what did you wash it with, how soon after the coating, just to name two procedures, and variables.

Never used the Blackfire Coating, but have used the DP and Pinnacle Gold Label Coatings. Honestly, I didn't think much of either I mention that I have, and question whether these coatings are in the realm of Opti-Coat, Opti-Gloss, GT C1-EXO, and some others on the market.

I've done my testing this end with DP and Pinnacle, applied to little trinkets here and there around here, like cargo trailer fenders after a full correction, totally stripped, and little other projects, with painting items that sit outside 24/7 like Porch Coach Lights, etc, and these treated pieces didn't hold up a month.

I see them lasting no longer IMO than a bottle of Turtle Wax from WallyWorld. Others have their opinions, lasting 2 years and going strong, etc, but that has not been my findings.

Strip, polish, prep, apply some Colly 845 and be done with it.
I just did my crapbox Kia this morning with the 845. Looks great, and 5 hours later still looks dust free (even with gusty winds this afternoon), which is a revelation here in this dusty turd that I live in.

Sorry to diss some of the PBMG products, but felt what I bought was a waste of my money and products that were not ready for prime time.

Now CQ UK? That I like, it works.

**conman1395** · 05-23-2015, 05:40 PM

You did an IPA wipe down? Whan about the Prep Spray that Blackfire sells for use with their coating?

**MarkD51** · 05-23-2015, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by conman1395

You did an IPA wipe down? Whan about the Prep Spray that Blackfire sells for use with their coating?

That is where I think things are getting a little too anal, and OCD, that one didn't use this or that special prep, didn't have the little secret decoder ring on hand (Be Sure To Drink Your Ovaltine!) and all this rigamorole, in which I think a good-proper concentration of an IPA wipedown should be able to take care of any residues-oils left behind by any polish on the market.

I think this all is just a huge marketeering "suck-in", and a bunch of crappola, to look for a blame, or an excuse of why some products just don't plain out work right, period!

You want a good coating, strip the vehicle again, buy a small stryinge of Optimum Gloss Coat, follow directions, and ever look back. Give the Blackfire stuff away IMO.

I'm betting the OP did nothing wrong, but has problems which he shouldn't of had.

**atgonzales** · 05-23-2015, 06:22 PM

My daughter said it looks like some one put graffiti on the car only 3 panels. I will take few pics in a few minutes. I'm hoping I can it down with a scary wax and re-apply.

**swanicyouth** · 05-23-2015, 06:25 PM

What is a scary wax?

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**atgonzales** · 05-23-2015, 06:26 PM

Spray wax

**atgonzales** · 05-23-2015, 06:28 PM

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**swanicyouth** · 05-23-2015, 06:29 PM

OMG... What is that? You can't blame that on the coating. It looks like it was applied with a piece of sand paper. Looks like scary wax.

**Justin at Final Inspection** · 05-23-2015, 06:37 PM

What did you apply it with. They recommend a Lake country coating applicator. The black fire prep spray is much easier to use than IPA imhop. Didn't have any issue with this coating.
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