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Re: Tw hybrid solutions afternoon detail
Originally Posted by
Dr Oldz
Seems any of the Sio2 washes do not produce suds and also aren’t snow foam friendly. I believe it’s a trade off for the protection it lays down.
I’m ok with that because suds do not really do anything..... the lubricity is in the solution, not the suds anyway. Think of rinseless products..... they are all non sudsing.
There have been some reputable professionals who have said the same thing. Michael Stoops (Meguiar's), Yvan Lacroix (formerly of Optimum now with LC), Jason Rose/Dylan Von Kleist (Rupes) just to name a few off the top of my head.
We just get sucked into the thinking that suds are doing something other than looking cool.
Originally Posted by
PaulMys
If I lived in LA or Florida, I would probably never do a rinseless.
A couple years ago this was not possible with the drought in California. Neighbors ratting each other out causing a fine to be issued. DWP supposedly had people going out to see who they could catch, although I never saw this.
A rinseless is not as bad as some people make it out to be.
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Re: Tw hybrid solutions afternoon detail
Originally Posted by
The Guz
There have been some reputable professionals who have said the same thing. Michael Stoops (Meguiar's), Yvan Lacroix (formerly of Optimum now with LC), Jason Rose/Dylan Von Kleist (Rupes) just to name a few off the top of my head.
We just get sucked into the thinking that suds are doing something other than looking cool.
A couple years ago this was not possible with the drought in California. Neighbors ratting each other out causing a fine to be issued. DWP supposedly had people going out to see who they could catch, although I never saw this.
A rinseless is not as bad as some people make it out to be.
Yeah, I remember the drought restrictions, Mike. Horrible deal.
I wasn't trying to make the point that rinseless washes are a bad thing either. I should have mentioned that after a good bucket wash, and I drive through rain, I will do my rinseless washes.
It is no coincidence that man's best friend cannot talk.
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Re: Tw hybrid solutions afternoon detail
Originally Posted by
The Guz
There have been some reputable professionals who have said the same thing. Michael Stoops (Meguiar's), Yvan Lacroix (formerly of Optimum now with LC), Jason Rose/Dylan Von Kleist (Rupes) just to name a few off the top of my head.
We just get sucked into the thinking that suds are doing something other than looking cool.
You’re wrong. Ivan Lacroix doesn’t agree with the notion that suds “don’t do anything but look cool”
As a matter of fact, since you seem to regard his word as gospel, why don’t you go ahead and watch this video and listen to him break down the benefits of foam aka suds when it comes to cleaning a dirty surface.
Skip to 1:20 if you want to cut straight to his “sermon Le foam” lol.
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Re: Tw hybrid solutions afternoon detail
Originally Posted by
Eldorado2k
You’re wrong. Ivan Lacroix doesn’t agree with the notion that suds “don’t do anything but look cool”
As a matter of fact, since you seem to regard his word as gospel, why don’t you go ahead and watch this video and listen to him break down the benefits of foam aka suds when it comes to cleaning a dirty surface.
Skip to 1:20 if you want to cut straight to his “sermon Le foam” lol.
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Its nice to be wrong. Although I’m not. Yvan has even mentioned that ONR is the future and shampoo is ancient technology. He said so in the optimum podcast and rag company podcast.
You do know he is a consultant and Nick is using him to sell product. I would do the same as Yvan is well known in the industry. Yvan has even popped up like crazy in the Mckee’s Facebook group.
Anyway just to end this pointless back and forth I will say you’re right .
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Re: Tw hybrid solutions afternoon detail
Originally Posted by
The Guz
You do know he is a consultant and Nick is using him to sell product.
That’s not a very nice thing to say... Especially considering just 1 post prior you called him a “reputable professional”
Suddenly you’re all but calling him a sellout? I still respect him.
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Re: Tw hybrid solutions afternoon detail
RE: The value of “Suds; Foam; Bubbles”.
•Even if it were proven they are not
necessary for effective cleaning, many
will still take to heart that they show
that a product is working.
-I suppose there’ll always be the:
”Feelzies vs. Factzies” factions.
•Me, on the other hand:
-I consider a hogshead of suds to be very
nearly equal to that of a cord of prepared
manure and all of its incipient putridity.
Bob
"Be wary of the man who urges an action in which he himself incurs no risk."
~Joaquin de Setanti
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Re: Tw hybrid solutions afternoon detail
Originally Posted by
FUNX650
•Me, on the other hand:
-I consider a hogshead of suds to be very
nearly equal to that of a cord of prepared
manure and all of its incipient putridity.
Bob
Not feelin’ the bubbles, huh?
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Re: Tw hybrid solutions afternoon detail
I will be doing a 2nd coat this weekend of the spray coating. After a week of some rain etc.. I got to say it is legit. Truck beaded great and water rolled right off after driving. Self cleaned great. Truck looked great after a week of driving.
Second coat done. WOW! This product really pops the paint. Next up is the WET WAX to try as a drying aid next wash.
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Originally Posted by
pro 4x
I will be doing a 2nd coat this weekend of the spray coating. After a week of some rain etc.. I got to say it is legit. Truck beaded great and water rolled right off after driving. Self cleaned great. Truck looked great after a week of driving.
Second coat done. WOW! This product really pops the paint. Next up is the WET WAX to try as a drying aid next wash.
Great to hear! I will be recieving the spray coating and wet wax any day. Going to disinfect it as I open it. Best to be safe.
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Re: Tw hybrid solutions afternoon detail
Originally Posted by
PEAD19
Great to hear! I will be recieving the spray coating and wet wax any day. Going to disinfect it as I open it. Best to be safe.
Let us know how your results are after using them!
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