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Re: PH balanced vs PH neutral
Originally Posted by
FUNX650
No; I do not tend to agree with this premise.
•First:
-It’s a given that Soap is a cleaner;
but what is Soap/What is Soap made from?
•Secondly:
-Any cleaner that is not a Soap,
is a (synthetic) Detergent.
•Thirdmost:
If you want a more aggressive car-washing
solutions/cleaners...then gradually move up
from those that are 6-8 ph (neutral), to those
that are more Alkaline: from “mildly” Alkaline
(8.5-11pH); to Alkaline (11.5-12.5pH); to, finally,
“highly” Alkaline (12.5-14pH):
You know, the Degreasers’ territory.
Bob
The reason I asked was because of this following statement that you made.. It seemed to imply that you’re calling typical “car wash” a detergent.
Originally Posted by
FUNX650
•Car washing products are detergent cleaners.
Bob
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Super Member
Re: PH balanced vs PH neutral
Originally Posted by
Eldorado2k
The reason I asked was because of this
following statement that you made..
It seemed to imply that you’re calling
typical “car wash” a detergent.
Well, if the “car wash” isn’t a Soap...then:
the “car wash” is definitely a Detergent.
Bob
"Be wary of the man who urges an action in which he himself incurs no risk."
~Joaquin de Setanti
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Re: PH balanced vs PH neutral
Soaps are made from natural ingredients, such as plant oils (coconut, vegetable, palm, pine) or acids derived from animal fat. Detergents, on the other hand, are synthetic, man-made derivatives. While soap is limited in its applications, detergents can be formulated to include other ingredients for all sorts of cleaning purposes. Perhaps the most common and versatile of these ingredients are surfactants … surface active agents.
Surfactants aid in cleaning because they reduce surface tension and improve water’s ability to spread evenly over it. This creates a more uniform wetness that makes dirt and soil easier to wipe away and remove. Surfactant molecules can also have either a positive or negative charge, with one end attracted to water and the other end attracted to dirt and grease. This helps detergents attach to dirt, break it up and let water wash it away.
Another significant difference between "soap" and "detergent" is that a soap will always leave behind a film unless a clear water rinse is applied. Whereas detergents will usually have additives to aid in free-rinsing.
Finally, a "soap" needs warm water to work but "detergents" can be tailored to work in all temps.
A typical "car wash" product is indeed a detergent.
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Re: PH balanced vs PH neutral
Originally Posted by
57Rambler
Soaps are made from natural ingredients, such as plant oils (coconut, vegetable, palm, pine) or acids derived from animal fat. Detergents, on the other hand, are synthetic, man-made derivatives. While soap is limited in its applications, detergents can be formulated to include other ingredients for all sorts of cleaning purposes. Perhaps the most common and versatile of these ingredients are surfactants … surface active agents.
Surfactants aid in cleaning because they reduce surface tension and improve water’s ability to spread evenly over it. This creates a more uniform wetness that makes dirt and soil easier to wipe away and remove. Surfactant molecules can also have either a positive or negative charge, with one end attracted to water and the other end attracted to dirt and grease. This helps detergents attach to dirt, break it up and let water wash it away.
Another significant difference between "soap" and "detergent" is that a soap will always leave behind a film unless a clear water rinse is applied. Whereas detergents will usually have additives to aid in free-rinsing.
Finally, a "soap" needs warm water to work but "detergents" can be tailored to work in all temps.
A typical "car wash" product is indeed a detergent.
Good answer...
I liked everything until the very last statement. I’m sorry but I can’t consider a typical car wash soap/shampoo a detergent. I’ll keep it in the soap category. Just my opinion.
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Re: PH balanced vs PH neutral
Originally Posted by
Eldorado2k
I liked everything until the very last statement. I’m sorry but I can’t consider a typical car wash soap/shampoo a detergent. I’ll keep it in the soap category. Just my opinion.
You'd be hard-pressed to find a single car wash product that does not contain surfactants (and is therefore a detergent).
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