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07-15-2018, 09:46 PM
#241
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Re: Sealant comparison
Pretty sure I tested PA Cosmic Spritz two times - will have to check. Maybe once when when I was testing coating and the Cosmic Spritz went over Cosmic coating. Didn't do particularly well either time. I could test it again, but I just haven't see it perform well relative to other products, as least not the way I'm testing it.
I have Brilliant Shine Detailer waiting for the next round of testing. Looking forward to it.
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07-15-2018, 09:48 PM
#242
Super Member
Re: Sealant comparison
Originally Posted by RippyD
Pretty sure I tested PA Cosmic Spritz two times - will have to check. Maybe once when when I was testing coating and the Cosmic Spritz went over Cosmic coating. Didn't do particularly well either time. I could test it again, but I just haven't see it perform well relative to other products, as least not the way I'm testing it.
I have Brilliant Shine Detailer waiting for the next round of testing. Looking forward to it.
In your personal option what is the best stand alone spray sealant. I'm looking for something to use as a drying aid and would love to hear your input.
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07-15-2018, 10:57 PM
#243
Super Member
Re: Sealant comparison
You're asking me? I would ask you. I may have played with more products, but I suspect you have 10,000x more experience.
I think most of the spray waxes are good. Aquawax, Opt, McKee's fast wax, etc. I also like Reload+Ech20 - seems to be very slick and has great shine. Doesn't last as long, but looks great. I have to consider DG Rinseless as a QD as well. For the cost it's great. A 5:1 or 6:1 it can be streaky in the sun, so watch that.
I reach for Aquawax or Reload + Ech2o most often when I want a drying aid.
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07-15-2018, 10:59 PM
#244
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Re: Sealant comparison
Originally Posted by RippyD
You're asking me? I would ask you. I may have played with more products, but I suspect you have 10,000x more experience.
I think most of the spray waxes are good. Aquawax, Opt, McKee's fast wax, etc. I also like Reload+Ech20 - seems to be very slick and has great shine. Doesn't last as long, but looks great. I have to consider DG Rinseless as a QD as well. For the cost it's great. A 5:1 or 6:1 it can be streaky in the sun, so watch that.
I reach for Aquawax or Reload + Ech2o most often.
I've been thinking about re visiting aquawax and possibly mixing with something to help with the streaks like Meg's 156 that stuff never streaks
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07-16-2018, 01:01 AM
#245
Re: Sealant comparison
Originally Posted by Cruzscarwash
I also use BSD in a different spray bottle to get a better spray Pattern. I've been interested in those salon bottles as well to see how they would do.
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Those Flairosol spray bottles is very good option to BSD. Even if Sonax has updated their spray bottle bottle I still is not satisfied with the spray pattern from them to spray on the paint directly. The spray pattern from the Flairosol nozzle is awesome and distribute the product of choice thin and even. I have a gloss spray product that is stronger than reload but not up to the Gyeon CanCoat. And comes original in a Flairosol spray bottle. That's awesome to apply and even with it's pretty strong protection in it. Then of course it depends on the product it self too. This is a Si+(monokisel) based that has a very like properties of sio2. But even when the mf towel gets saturated from only used to spread out the product until it's disapare it's starts to leave a streaking after the mf towel but it's like some QD that clears up and evaporate clearly.
Forgot to link to the PNS kit in the last post.
SONAX Paint Protection Package
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07-23-2018, 05:13 PM
#246
Super Member
Re: Sealant comparison
Washed and dried the Rover hood last night (N-914 @ rinseless). Did the hose test this morning. Everything has slowed down a little. SFX-4 still the best of this batch, but now taking longer to clear water. Nanoshock has slowed down enough that I'm calling it done. I had accidentally marked it done last time. 3M and 303 incorrectly marked as done also. Updated chart below. I also differentiated between summer and winter exposure.
Working ok
SFX-4 - clearing 100% of water in ~30 seconds
3M Synthetic - clearing 100% in ~50 seconds
McKees's Fast Wax - 80% in 1 min
Mystery #4 - 80% in 1 min
Four Star - 80%+ in 1 min
Dodo Supreme - 75%+ in 1 min
Barely working
BF Carnuba - 50% in 1 min
303 Spray - 50% in 1 min
Corrected chart:
Some Q&A
Q: Why no new products on the Sentra hood?
A: Sentra is likely going to our oldest kid and I may not have regular access to it. Too bad, since I just polished the hood and roof to take some new products.
Q: Sentra replacement?
A: Yes, likely today. The bad news is that it's going to be another white car. When buying used on a budget you kind of get what you get.
Q: Next set of products?
A: Ultima Acrylic Spray Wax, Mother's Spray Wax, Megs Ultimate Quik Wax, Sonax Spray + Seal, McKee's 10 Minute Sealant, Mother's Speed Spray Wax, Sonax Brilliant Shine, FK 215 (an AIO).
Q: When?
A: Hoping to get the next products down this week. Certainly by this weekend.
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07-23-2018, 06:33 PM
#247
Super Member
Re: Sealant comparison
Originally Posted by RippyD
Washed and dried the Rover hood last night (N-914 @ rinseless). Did the hose test this morning. Everything has slowed down a little. SFX-4 still the best of this batch, but now taking longer to clear water. Nanoshock has slowed down enough that I'm calling it done. I had accidentally marked it done last time. 3M and 303 incorrectly marked as done also. Updated chart below. I also differentiated between summer and winter exposure.
Working ok
SFX-4 - clearing 100% of water in ~30 seconds
3M Synthetic - clearing 100% in ~50 seconds
McKees's Fast Wax - 80% in 1 min
Mystery #4 - 80% in 1 min
Four Star - 80%+ in 1 min
Dodo Supreme - 75%+ in 1 min
Barely working
BF Carnuba - 50% in 1 min
303 Spray - 50% in 1 min
Some Q&A
Q: Why no new products on the Sentra hood?
A: Sentra is likely going to our oldest kid and I may not have regular access to it. Too bad, since I just polished the hood and roof to take some new products.
Q: Sentra replacement?
A: Yes, likely today. The bad news is that it's going to be another white car. When buying used on a budget you kind of get what you get.
Q: Next set of products?
A: Ultima Acrylic Spray Wax, Mother's Spray Wax, Megs Ultimate Quik Wax, Sonax Spray + Seal, McKee's 10 Minute Sealant, Mother's Speed Spray Wax, Sonax Brilliant Shine, FK 215 (an AIO).
Q: When?
A: Hoping to get the next products down this week. Certainly by this weekend.
You got over 20 weeks worth boss finishing sealant??
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07-23-2018, 07:41 PM
#248
Super Member
Re: Sealant comparison
That doesn't sound right. Double checking.
UPDATE: Checked. The whole thing is a mess. Some issue with the sorting. I found the issue earlier today and was sure I fixed it. Will have go back to an earlier version and rebuild from my notes. Btw, Google Sheets is awesome in many ways. What's not awesome is some of the bugs. I think this one has to do with sorting when there are hidden columns.
UPDATE 2: Corrected above. Thanks Cruz! Glad somebody is paying attention.
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07-23-2018, 07:55 PM
#249
Super Member
Re: Sealant comparison
Originally Posted by RippyD
That doesn't sound right. Double checking.
UPDATE: Checked. The whole thing is a mess. Some issue with the sorting. I found the issue earlier today and was sure I fixed it. Will have go back to an earlier version and rebuild from my notes. Btw, Google Sheets is awesome in many ways. What's not awesome is some of the bugs. I think this one has to do with sorting when there are hidden columns.
Will get the right data re-posted as soon as I can. Hoping it's tonight.
Your last chart and the chart you just posted have much different results for multiple products, or I I'm missing something I'm translation.
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07-23-2018, 08:05 PM
#250
Super Member
Re: Sealant comparison
Originally Posted by RippyD
That doesn't sound right. Double checking.
UPDATE: Checked. The whole thing is a mess. Some issue with the sorting. I found the issue earlier today and was sure I fixed it. Will have go back to an earlier version and rebuild from my notes. Btw, Google Sheets is awesome in many ways. What's not awesome is some of the bugs. I think this one has to do with sorting when there are hidden columns.
Will get the right data re-posted as soon as I can. Hoping it's tonight.
Not your fault, Rip. Damn computer bugs!
It is no coincidence that man's best friend cannot talk.
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