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Re: DIY vs pay $$$
Originally Posted by
jboy2015
Thanks for all the insight guys. I'm going to pull the trigger!
Do you guys recommend purchasing white or orange pads? (Or a few of both)
I'll be working on my single cab ram and my wife's Mercedes c300 using 3D Polish+ and the porter cable
Both are black with with light to moderate swirls. (More light than moderate)
Thanks again!!
Try Speed first on the swirls and see if it works. You may be pleasantly surprised. No sense using anything stronger than necessary.
Cut chart is here: http://site.autopia-carcare.com/news...opiaPol800.jpg
3D is in the first row.
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I'd stick with your original plan that ends in Gyeon CanCoat, which will not play well with HD Speed. If yer gonna take the time to put a machine on the paint, may as well used dedicated polish and protect with something a bit more durable than HD Speed. Time wise, you'll save about 15 minutes using HD Speed with it's limited Poxy-ish protection vs polishing + Gyeon CanCoat protection. Have never used Gyeon Polish but a small bottle of Jescar Finishing Polish may be a better choice. Not sure the extent of the defects or if a polish will get ya where ya want to be.
FWIW I started with:
GG6 DA
(6) Lake Country Flat Pads - White
(6) Lake Country Flay Pads - Orange
Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover 3.0 - 8oz
Wolfgang Finishing Glaze 3.0 - 8oz
Poorboys Tornado Pad Cleaner
Gyeon Prep - 500ml
12 Pack Edgeless Polishing Cloths
Unless ya have some deep/more severe defects, the combo will give you medium polish (WG TSR) on orange pads if needed and finishing polish (WG FG) on white pads.
It's a nice overall combo to start with and you can move on from there if needed....or wanted...or compelled because now your teetering on the edge of the rabbit hole.
The Wolfgang 'Twins' are pretty close to Menzerna 2400 & 3500 but you can get 'em in the smaller bottles.
Maybe grab some McKees 914 or Optimun no rinse which you can use in a variety of ways; rinseless wash, waterless wash, clay lube, quick detailer, etc. depending on dilution.
Everybody has their preferences, this worked well for me when I started. Gyeon CanCoat is a steller way to finish off; great gloss, blindingly easy application, great water behavior and self-cleaning characteristics. Recently read review from user who got a year outta it maintaining only with Gyeon Bathe+, a SiO2 infused auto shampoo which would play nice with CanCoat.
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What's up jboy2015. I just now saw your thread...
I replied to your PM so you already know my opinion as far as that part...
However as far as paying Chemical Guys $200 for a detailing course? Don't do it bro.. Heck, I'd be happy to walk you through your 1st time polishing if you'd like, and I won't cost anywhere near $200 for the lesson. lol.
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The Gyeon polish is a good polish before cancoat. It’s like a 4 oz bottle
Maybe some green pads would be a good one step followed by cancoat
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Jboy - skip the class. I would take Eldorado up on his offer to show you.
Another option, attend one of the 3d/HD FREE classes they do from time to time. It's free. They also show you real-life examples of how to use some of their products.
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I would first practice on a old test hood or panel if you are able to get one if you are going to DIY. I've have many customers that try DIY then turn around and have me fix what they did costing hundreds to thousands of $$$$.
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Originally Posted by
MattPersman
The Gyeon polish is a good polish before cancoat. It’s like a 4 oz bottle
Maybe some green pads would be a good one step followed by cancoat
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I do have some small bottles of Gyeon Compound and Polish, guess I'll give 'em a try soon. The Gyeon Primer I used last week before coating was an absolute delight to use.
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DIY all the way! Once you get the Detailing disease, there is NO TURNING BACK! Welcome to the DARK SIDE! I AM NOT YOUR FATHER!! All kidding aside you will have FUN detailing your own ride! By the way, you will get a TON of opinions on product choices. But for a good start custmsprty has the right idea when it comes to pads....6 Orange, 6 White and 2 Red or Black pads. I PREFER Lake Country Pads as they have been the best for me. As for your PC7424XP it is a GREAT starter DA. I still use mine til this day.
You might look at the Griot Garage 6" DA too! That is a little more than the PC, however, it is more powerful and has a LIFETIME Warranty. Have fun and enjoy and let us know what path you took! I am rooting for the DIY path instead of spending the $$. Besides, the detailer might not be that good.
CJ
2013 Mustang GT w/Track Pack 6-Speed Manual
Save the Manual!
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DIY unless you are doing 20 to 50+ hour paint corrections leave it to a pro. Been detailing for 15 years and still learning how to paint correct some cars.
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